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NCAAF playoff system NEEDS to seed a number of teams that is a multiple of 4
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:12 am
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:12 am
Think about it. Any number not a multiple of 4 is going to produce seeds given a bye.
One reason given for the “new” 12 team playoff is eliminate the snafu’s like an undefeated team not making it to the championship series.
But, as stated above 4 teams get a bye. Suppose in Round 1 Team A beats Team B. Then in Round 2 Team A plays Team C who happened to have a bye in Round 1. Team A loses to Team C. Now Team A is going to claim they were robbed because Team C had an extra week to rest, heal, prepare, etc….
So instead of getting rid of controversy the “new” system replaces one source of controversy with another.
Why not mimic the “proven” formula of March Madness, but with 16 teams instead of 12? The playoffs will still be played over the same number of weeks so having to extend the season is no more an issue with a 16 team field than with one of 12.
With sixteen teams, 4 more teams get to compete. Is that such a bad thing?
Seems like a reasonable and doable solution. But, nonetheless leave it to the powers that be to bypass an easy solution and go from one crappy system to another.
One reason given for the “new” 12 team playoff is eliminate the snafu’s like an undefeated team not making it to the championship series.
But, as stated above 4 teams get a bye. Suppose in Round 1 Team A beats Team B. Then in Round 2 Team A plays Team C who happened to have a bye in Round 1. Team A loses to Team C. Now Team A is going to claim they were robbed because Team C had an extra week to rest, heal, prepare, etc….
So instead of getting rid of controversy the “new” system replaces one source of controversy with another.
Why not mimic the “proven” formula of March Madness, but with 16 teams instead of 12? The playoffs will still be played over the same number of weeks so having to extend the season is no more an issue with a 16 team field than with one of 12.
With sixteen teams, 4 more teams get to compete. Is that such a bad thing?
Seems like a reasonable and doable solution. But, nonetheless leave it to the powers that be to bypass an easy solution and go from one crappy system to another.
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:14 am to DSPurpleandGold
12 is a multiple of 4 since 12 is divisible by 4.
but I get what you mean.
but I get what you mean.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 6:14 am
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:15 am to DSPurpleandGold
One reason to like the 12-team playoff is the top four teams are rewarded a bye ‘week’… NFL and MLB reward the best teams with a bye
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:16 am to DSPurpleandGold
It may be a small controversy when the seeding is announced, but the “we didnt get a bye” argument is alot weaker then the “we didnt get in” argument. I wouldnt feel bad for florida st if they got in but had to play in round 1, at least you get a fricking chance to earn it on the field.
Nfl does byes, does anyone complain about playing wildcard weekend? Think you know that answer.
Plus, what are you playing for as a 2 seed the last week of the regular season in that scenario, not much difference in the 2 seed and the 6 seed, frick that
Nfl does byes, does anyone complain about playing wildcard weekend? Think you know that answer.
Plus, what are you playing for as a 2 seed the last week of the regular season in that scenario, not much difference in the 2 seed and the 6 seed, frick that
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:20 am to billfish21
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One reason to like the 12-team playoff is the top four teams are rewarded a bye ‘week’… NFL and MLB reward the best teams with a bye
With this logic applied to the current state of affairs, BAMA gets a bye. FSU doesn’t even though FSU has a better record.
FSU wins in Round 1 and plays BAMA in Round 2. BAMA beats FSU. FSU claims that had they gotten the bye, they would have beaten BAMA because x,y & z would have helped them.
Same dog, different fleas. Nothing solved.
Besides NCAA isn’t NFL etc…. But, March Madness is and seems to work just fine.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:21 am to DSPurpleandGold
Yea and FSU would have been triggered that they didn’t get a bye, and then got beat by the group of five 12 seed.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:25 am to DSPurpleandGold
Why are you assuming fsu wouldve been seeded the same in a 12 team playoff? Id argue they wouldve been seeded 3. Alot easier for the committee to do the right thing when both teams get in
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:25 am to DSPurpleandGold
quote:
12 is a multiple of 4 since 12 is divisible by 4. but I get what you mean.
Yep…..
It’s still early and I haven’t had my coffee.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:28 am to josh336
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Why are you assuming fsu wouldve been seeded the same in a 12 team playoff? Id argue they wouldve been seeded 3. Alot easier for the committee to do the right thing when both teams get in
Not really assuming anything. Providing an example is all. Looking as ways to get rid of the controversy and have championships decided on the field and not in the press.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:31 am to DSPurpleandGold
Their is controversy when the march madness brackets are announced too. But the difference is, its alot harder to feel sorry for teams the further you go down the list.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:31 am to DSPurpleandGold
12 is already too many. How about top ten.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:37 am to DSPurpleandGold
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:41 am to DSPurpleandGold
FCS has done 16 teams for years. IDK why FBS hasn’t followed suit.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:42 am to DSPurpleandGold
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Yep…..
It’s still early and I haven’t had my coffee.
What you meant was a binary digit. Has to be 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, etc., to avoid a bye situation.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:44 am to DSPurpleandGold
We don’t need 12. Maybe 8 but realistically 6
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:46 am to Ace Midnight
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What you meant was a binary digit. Has to be 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, etc., to avoid a bye situation.
It is powers of 2
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:51 am to DSPurpleandGold
I can see your logic. I would go so far as saying that having 4 major conferences, now that the Pac 12 is dead, will help. Having 5 conferences and squeezing 5 into 4 is what has NEVER made sense. Someone always gets left out and controversy ensues.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:55 am to Rizer_J
Next season people will find something else to complain about for sure even if Pac-12 stayed around. 12 teams in FBS is honestly too many I think unless the league continues having parity like this season going forward.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:56 am to josh336
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Their is controversy when the march madness brackets are announced too. But the difference is, its alot harder to feel sorry for teams the further you go down the list.
Exactly!
Any number of teams involved between 9 and 16 requires a 4 week schedule.
By, including 16 instead of 15, 14 …. More teams are given a shot without extending the time required to complete the series.
Regardless if they complain about getting left out no one is really going to care if say the 17th ranked team doesn’t get an invite.
On a different note, the argument regarding college football should do byes because the NFL does it really isn’t relevant.
Unlike NCAAF the NFL in no way shape or form uses a popularity contest based system to seed its playoff contenders. It’s ?? based on their win loss record.
Conference champions get the top seeds, runners up the next seeds and wildcards the lowest. In addition, the NFL bases it’s tie breakers on a strictly defined priority list.
Another thing to consider is the NFL includes close to half its teams in the playoffs. The NCAA includes maybe 2 or 3%?
So in reality what the NFL does isn’t translatable to the NCAA.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:02 am to DSPurpleandGold
Subtle way of saying you don’t get math.
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