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My take on Jefferson and Lee.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 10/18/09 at 6:38 pm
I believe Jefferson deserves to have one last chance against Auburn to prove he can take it too the next level. If not go to Lee. My concern with Lee is not about the pick 6's. It is about the look of fear he had in his eyes. I watched him all season he just seemed scared. Not scared to make a mistake but scared to get hit. Thats why he didn't get sacked much and threw off his back foot. Maybe he has overcome his fear, but a team will not follow a leader who seems afraid to get hit. Jefferson may be afraid to make a mistake which he needs to overcome but he is not afraid to take a hit. I think his teamates respect him more for that. Just my opinion.
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Posted on 10/18/09 at 6:41 pm to nate32578
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Jefferson may be afraid to make a mistake which he needs to overcome but he is not afraid to take a hit. I think his teamates respect him more for that. Just my opinion.
Jefferson's problem is he tucks and runs at any pressure, he is not going to take a hit unless its running the ball. Don;t remember JJ taking a hit after release in a long time.
Play them both. Not either or.....
Posted on 10/18/09 at 6:42 pm to nate32578
You can't coach courage. Lee threw his only two passes of the year off his back foot. I don't know maybe he changed, but i would love to see him stand in the pocket strong and deliver. If he did that then I'd respect him again.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 6:46 pm to nate32578
Posted on 10/18/09 at 6:47 pm to ready4something
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This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 10/18/09 at 6:55 pm to msutiger
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but i would love to see him stand in the pocket strong and deliver. If he did that then I'd respect him again.
JJ doesn't do this either.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 6:57 pm to nate32578
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I believe Jefferson deserves to have one last chance
I wouldn't go that route, either. One last chance is a "do or die" scenario. That's how we got into this mess in the first place.
Simply start giving Lee some time on the field. No need to totally shock the team. Put Lee in and see how it works.
Maybe Jefferson standing on the sideline watching Lee run the offense would be beneficial.
I think Miles is putting too much pressure on Jefferson just like he did last year with Lee. It is unfair to those young men as well as the team.
See what happens. Tinker a bit with the quarterbacks. Don't burn them down and move on to the next one.
Heck, the way Miles is working it, next year it will be Shephard leading the team. Now all of you may say, "That sounds great," just like we felt about Jefferson. Miles would just be throwing another young gun into the fire. Sooner or later a quarterback rises up, or the team begins to lose traction, and I ain't talkin' bout stats.
This post was edited on 10/18/09 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Watch the game he does. He also sometimes holds it and trys to tuck and run away. But if he see an open reciever he has delivered and taken the hit in the chest. He never leans back and throw blindly to the middle of the field. I don't want to sound like I think he has been good. But you don't bench a 5 and 1 quarterback with a interception ratio of 7 to 3 hoping the backup may do better. Its about wins and loses. We could average 400+ yards a game and be 5 and 2 like auburn. If he can't get it done against Auburn times up. Let Lee warm up against Tech to be ready for Bama. Also if we can't run against Auburn than there is no hope.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:09 pm to nate32578
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I don't want to sound like I think he has been good. But you don't bench a 5 and 1 quarterback with a interception ratio of 7 to 3 hoping the backup may do better.
I've never advocated a total switch in roles, just play Lee a couple series a game, like Mickey Guidry and Hodson.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I wouldn't go that route, either. One last chance is a "do or die" scenario. That's how we got into this mess in the first place.
Simply start giving Lee some time on the field. No need to totally shock the team. Put Lee in and see how it works.
Maybe Jefferson standing on the sideline watching Lee run the offense would be beneficial.
The reasonable approach.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:17 pm to mrbayoublu
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Simply start giving Lee some time on the field. No need to totally shock the team. Put Lee in and see how it works.
Do we try this against Auburn or wait until Tulane?
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:19 pm to chilge1
Against Auburn. Lee is supposed to have experience from last season, so let him in...not with our backs to the goal line...but something reasonable.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:21 pm to chilge1
Lee got hurt against Ole Miss last year by standing in the pocket to deliver an across the middle pass to Lafell on 3rd and long. He also took a shot against Auburn for a TD passs to C Mitchell.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:24 pm to ready4something
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You can't coach courage. Lee threw his only two passes of the year off his back foot.
he threw two little flip passes under no real pressure...hardly throws you would step into.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:25 pm to Cuz413
the right plays, JJ does great, the wrong calls we don't win, it doesn't matter who stand behind the center if the wrong plays are called
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:25 pm to mrbayoublu
I understand that reasoning. Its just a slippery slope to trouble. If Lee plays well do you bench Jefferson? Then what if the next game he plays poorly do then pull Lee and go back to Jefferson. If you are going to have two qb's it needs to be a predetermined rotation no one where they have to worry if they make a mistake the will get yanked. Its bad for them and it divides the team.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:28 pm to nate32578
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I understand that reasoning. Its just a slippery slope to trouble. If Lee plays well do you bench Jefferson? Then what if the next game he plays poorly do then pull Lee and go back to Jefferson. If you are going to have two qb's it needs to be a predetermined rotation no one where they have to worry if they make a mistake the will get yanked. Its bad for them and it divides the team.
You are so right. What a mess. We think it is bad now, but it could really turn into a nightmare.
Throw in the play calling gems of this season, and we could be on a one way ticket to not winning another game.
Sure sheds a new light on things, especially from a Coach's perspective.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:32 pm to Cuz413
I don't remember the Ole Miss pass. The one against Auburn he turned away from the hit and blindly threw it down the field. It looked lucky maybe he is just good a no look throws. But he turned away from the hit and made a nice flick and Mitchell ran down the pass.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:38 pm to nate32578
On the Ole Miss pass he was body slammed by the DT (can't remember his name).
It was almost as if Les told him not to take any chances on getting hurt as Hatch was banged up and he wanted to keep JJ's red shirt. When it was apparent that Hatch wasn't going to play much Les burned the red shirt by letting JJ come in here and there (Tulane and Troy) to get some reps. From the look of JJ's passes it was pretty evident that he needed more time to get comfortable throwing.
It was almost as if Les told him not to take any chances on getting hurt as Hatch was banged up and he wanted to keep JJ's red shirt. When it was apparent that Hatch wasn't going to play much Les burned the red shirt by letting JJ come in here and there (Tulane and Troy) to get some reps. From the look of JJ's passes it was pretty evident that he needed more time to get comfortable throwing.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 7:42 pm to nate32578
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But he turned away from the hit and made a nice flick and Mitchell ran down the pass.
he threw a 40 yard spiral, hardly a 'flick as he was turning away'...you need to go re-watch this one on youtube. If he were scared of being hit he would have tucked the ball and ducked.
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