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re: Most of You are Spoiled -Throw-in- the-Towel 1/2 Assed Fans
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:03 pm to 7 Moves
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:03 pm to 7 Moves
I've read your post 7 Moves and understand your contempt for naysayers. The issue is potential not being reached. Anyone objectively watching the offense knows that Crowton/Miles have really let these athletes down.
The LSU Athletic Program, TAF, and every fan that gives a dollar to LSU is not being represented well. This is the issue.
Of Course Everyone is pleased with the record, but not the means to which it was achieved. When I watch LSU play, I see so much potential wasted. I believe that this is the crux of the frustration for many.
With the talent, LSU should have more production on Offense...Period.
The LSU Athletic Program, TAF, and every fan that gives a dollar to LSU is not being represented well. This is the issue.
Of Course Everyone is pleased with the record, but not the means to which it was achieved. When I watch LSU play, I see so much potential wasted. I believe that this is the crux of the frustration for many.
With the talent, LSU should have more production on Offense...Period.
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Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:03 pm to OFWHAP
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It's underperforming when we gain 161 yards of total offense and don't cross midfield in the second half. It's terrible that five offensive linemen cannot block three pass rushers.
I think they do need to make some kind of change, but if you think that making changes to the offense midseason is an easy thing then you know nothing about football. We are stuck with what we have and for you to bring up one game against the best team in college football really just shows how dense you are.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:03 pm to 7 Moves
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Member since Sep 2009
I think many people here remember Arnsbarger, Archer, Hallman, DiNardo, Saban and see what is happening with Miles. If we do not recognize history then we are suffer a repeat.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:04 pm to NimbleCat
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I've read your post 7 Moves and understand your contempt for naysayers. The issue is potential not being reached. Anyone objectively watching the offense knows that Crowton/Miles have really let these athletes down.
The LSU Athletic Program, TAF, and every fan that gives a dollar to LSU is not being represented well. This is the issue.
Of Course Everyone is pleased with the record, but not the means to which it was achieved. When I watch LSU play, I see so much potential wasted. I believe that this is the crux of the frustration for many.
With the talent, LSU should have more production on Offense...Period.
Well put.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:06 pm to NimbleCat
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With the talent, LSU should have more production on Offense...Period.
LSU's QB situation is the reason we don't have any production on offense. Anyone could see that. And no, not everyone is pleased with the record. Shyt i'm thrilled with a 5-1 record and i'd be ok with a 9-3 record. Sounds about right with the QB situation.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:10 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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I think they do need to make some kind of change, but if you think that making changes to the offense midseason is an easy thing then you know nothing about football. We are stuck with what we have and for you to bring up one game against the best team in college football really just shows how dense you are.
Well then why don't we quit running the option when our QB has no clue how to run the damn play? Why don't we take a risk or two and throw the ball down the middle of the field? Why don't we reduce the number of formations we run because it actually makes us more predictable since we run such a low number of player per formation? If our opponents are stacking the box, why do we insist on running it up the middle? We all know what's going to happen.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:18 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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LSU's QB situation
Is going to get worse before it gets better. (My Opininion) Jefferson needs more time at the line with the play in his head, not looking off to the sidelines. This would improve the morale of the offense and help LSU dictate tempo. As is, the offense does not impose the pace of the game or have the initiative.
The time clock is the only thing that dictates LSU's tempo. I feel like if there was a 2-5 minute play clock crowton would use every second trying to surmise the best play.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:21 pm to OFWHAP
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quit running the option when our QB has no clue how to run the damn play
The "wild tiger" or shotgun is not the best option formation. Jefferson is already 5 yds deep at the snap, does not make end commit, and pitches the ball way to late. Again, a poorly executed play. Not his fault though, that is how he is being taught to run it in practice.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:25 pm to NimbleCat
If Jefferson is taught to run it that way, then the coach in charge of that little operation needs to go. You either run parallel to the line of scrimmage or angled slightly towards the line of scrimmage. That way the linebacker or DE has to choose between the QB or the pitchman. By running it backwards, the defender never really has to choose.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:32 pm to OFWHAP
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OFWHAP
You're Right. Everyone on Earth sees it being executed incorrectly every time. JJ doesn't seem to attack the DE or LB and make them commit. KW gets the pitch 8 yds deep and 3 yds from the sidelines.
Very frustrating to watch.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:33 pm to NimbleCat
He actually did run it correctly against Florida once, but they covered it too well because they had safeties on the pitchman. But he DID make the linebacker commit to him at least.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:43 pm to OFWHAP
I'll agree, the option play needs to go! We do need to take shots down the field, i know jefferson has a good arm, i don't know what the deal is either. But to me it looks like Crowton is set in his ways and tries to simplify things, which works most of the time but it's the little thing called execution. It's not just one coach or one player, it's alot of different intangibles. Down the stretch i saw a few players drop passes they should have caught, Linemen getting false starts. It's disheartening, but at the same time i still keep my head up and i'm not giving up on this team. I didn't say that we can't improve, i would love to see them improve but what gets me is these assholes saying we should fire coaches and posters saying the only teams we can beat down the stretch are Tulane and La Tech. Even with the way we've been playing i'm pretty sure we will be in every game, and thats scary to think what we could do if we weren't playing so crappy on offense. I'm not giving up on this team even though i know there isn't a switch you can push that will make this offense go. But at the end of the year if we fold like a tent for a second straight year i will agree that maybe we need some changes. I'm just saying that lets wait and see how things play out first, thats all. After we got blasted by texas in 2002 and lost 5 games people weren't on here saying jimbo needs to go or will muschamp is overated or that (gasp) Nick Saban is a horrible coach.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:13 pm to LJBurton
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When's the last time we beat a team we weren't supposed to?
I believe that would be Georgia since they were a 3 pt favorite.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:16 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Yeah. And I'm pretty sure a lot of the naysayers were predicting a loss at Georgia.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:21 pm to NimbleCat
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Of Course Everyone is pleased with the record, but not the means to which it was achieved.
Personally, I'm more interested in the results than the means.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 12:20 am to 7 Moves
quote:GREAT POST! I agree 95%.
Most of You are Spoiled -Throw-in- the-Towel 1/2 Assed Fans
who don't know crap about leadership, developing a team over the course of a season, and the recipe for winning in sports or business. We are in the Top 10, respected around the country, will beat Auburn and Tulane and go into T-Town 7-1 with a chance to win and porably the 7 PM featured game of the week on ABC or CBS. These are good times and the comments on this board make it appear that our program and season is in the condition of FSU, MI, GA, TN, OK, UCLA, WV.... all teams with multiple losses. We have work to do on offense, no doubt, and I have concerns about Crowton -- not Miles, not Chavis. For God sakes, enjoy this season -- it has the potential to be a great one, and most all of our teams over the last 50 years were not as good as this won. Man up and get behind the team instead of trying to tear it down. How do you feel when your boss and/or customers do nothing but tear you down personally. Makes you feel good and improves your work? I don't think so.
I don't think Crowton is much of a concern because our offense under him did pretty well last year despite the pick-sixes. The problem, IMO, is that he's trying to implement too much of his vast playbook. If he tones things down over this break, I think we should be fine.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 7:31 am to LSU Tigerhead
I started this thread and agree with many of the pro's and con's that have been mentioned. I agree that our offense needs consistancy, imagination, and improved QB and OL play to continue winning. The defense is WAY better than last year and is the key to a lot of my optimism. My point about 1/2 assed fans is about getting behind the team (coaches & players) and having confidence that highly paid coaches and talented players (all of which Les et al recruited) will develop, make plays and give us a great season which is in reach. Burying this team and coaches at this stage and in our position is creating a huge, unecessary vibe for the entire program, and to me showcases lack of grit and drive that is exactly opposite from the determiniaton and confidence that you expect our players and coaches to have.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 2:47 pm to dukke v
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I guess YOU think I am A DOOMER!! Well thats fine. BUT I respect your positive attitude towards this team. I however think NOTHING IS going to change, and it PISSES ME off to pay a coach $4mill to have a 109th rated offense when he seems to get ALL these 5 star recruits!
How do you think Sooner fans feel losing to BYU and Miami?
Give me a break dude, what were we supposed to do, not pay Miles out after he won the NC? He's been recruiting like a champ, we've got some issues, but it'll be ok in the end if you
just chill the eff out.
What makes you think that changes won't be made? Miles fired the DCs, benched JL last year etc; He'll make the changes, I gaurantee it.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 2:57 pm to 7 Moves
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We are in the Top 10, respected around the country,
Its called inevitably. We were 3-5 in the SEC last year, and I see about 3-4 losses this year. That is called a downward trend for those who didn't take stats in college while Bama, au, and arky are making upward trends in the conference. take your head out of the sand.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 3:07 pm to sheek
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and I see about 3-4 losses this year. That is called a downward trend for those who didn't take stats in college
Oh. Now I get it. LSU is on a downward trend because 2008 was not a great year and you "see about 3-4 losses this year." Well, there is no doubt that we are doomed now.
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