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re: Mo Isom 3 day Kicker Tryout,if she makes the team....(updated with video)

Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:26 pm to
I'm all out of schlitz here. I'll say this. If Title IX requires that several men's programs be cut because of football, while not designating football a men's sport, then it's bullshite. I get that, practically speaking, men will take up all of those scholarships, but I object as a matter of principle.

Cheerleading is for women. Jams and preserves are for women. Football is for men.--SEC guy
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:27 pm to
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if she is on the team she is capable/has the ability to receive one


I thought she doesn't have the ability considering her soccer career.
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:27 pm to
The NCAA dubs football a men's sport

they just don't always enforce it as such
Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:28 pm to
Its the ability to receive a scholarship not the actual act of being rewarded one that is the issue.

If she is allowed to tryout/play (I DONT have a problem with either)then she is allowed a scholarship should she earn one.

Generally speaking.
This post was edited on 3/6/12 at 4:30 pm
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:28 pm to
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I thought she doesn't have the ability considering her soccer career.
she personally does not, I don't believe

but as showed already, she is not the only female player to do this
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:36 pm to
To sum this all up:

Title IX still sucks (I think 90% of us can agree on that)
Football is a man's sport, up until the point that a woman wants to and is capable of playing
Title IX still kills men's sports over this
And finally, women's baseball has suddenly been instated as a NCAA sport for the sake of poo's arguement

I kid, I kid
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:38 pm to
I don't want to read every page of this thread, but I believe Mo Isom should be allowed to try out, since what is the difference between LSU in 2012 & New Mexico in 2003, when Katie Hnida participated in some games for the University of New Mexico, also as a kicker.

And I am wondering if there have been any interviews or quotes from Hairston, Alleman, or any of the LSU coaches about this?
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:40 pm to
I was suggesting there is not replacement for baseball at the NCAA collegiate level for women, because that sport would be NCAA women's college baseball...which you won't find anywhere

Posted by Joehat
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:48 pm to
Incredible Title IX analysis

Anyone hear about her tryout today?
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:48 pm to
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I was suggesting there is not replacement for baseball at the NCAA collegiate level for women, because that sport would be NCAA women's college baseball...which you won't find anywhere


I would say you'll lose that argument 100 times of out 100...outside of a few specifics the sports are the same.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:51 pm to
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Anyone hear about her tryout today?


I think practice was set for 4pm today. Is that when a tryout would happen?
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:53 pm to
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Anyone hear about her tryout today?
do you see 5 threads about it on the rant?
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:56 pm to
tell that softball pitcher that if she wants to pitch in baseball she better learn how to do it overhand, from significantly farther, at a significantly faster speed, using a significantly smaller ball

I'm sure she will find batting very easy to adapt to as well
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:56 pm to
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But LSU was compliant with Title IX up to this date then they had equal opportunities for male and female athletes.


I don't think this is a hard test as far as number of sports is concerned, or even the exact scholarship numbers at any one point in time...

In fact, the opportunity for a woman to try out for football has always been there, this isn't something new...
This post was edited on 3/6/12 at 5:01 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:59 pm to
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tell that softball pitcher that if she wants to pitch in baseball she better learn how to do it overhand, from significantly farther, at a significantly faster speed, using a significantly smaller ball

I'm sure she will find batting very easy to adapt to as well


If she can bring the heat and swing a big stick...
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 5:00 pm to
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tell that softball pitcher that if she wants to pitch in baseball she better learn how to do it overhand, from significantly farther, at a significantly faster speed, using a significantly smaller ball


not sure what any of that has to do with equal opportunities for both sexes to play a sport that involves a ball, bat, glove, 3 outs per inning, etc.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 5:03 pm to
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ForeLSU
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not sure what any of that has to do with equal opportunities for both sexes to play a sport that involves a ball, bat, glove, 3 outs per inning, etc.


You are arguing with a wall about this. He can't comprehend that softball is baseball for women. Virtually every women's sport that has a men's alternative have slightly different rules. Or even drastic ones, but the premise is the same.
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 5:06 pm to
seeing as how they are different sports, I don't think telling a sex that has grown up playing another sport and learning the skill set and training for that sport that they have to play another sport, would find the fact that both use gloves and a bat and have 3 outs an inning that comforting
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 5:07 pm to
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Anyone hear about her tryout today?


I'm not going thru 20 pages to see if this was mentioned but it is a 3 day try out
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 5:08 pm to
women's wrestling is wrestling

women's tennis is tennis

women's soccer is soccer

women's diving is diving

softball is not baseball
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