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re: Miles responds to Michael Cauble's criticism of the offense, and fear of passing

Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:02 pm to
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Well, thanks for explaining it to me. Les Miles is not at fault for any short comings of the LSU football program. The guy is just unlucky.



Well he gets no credit for the lsu teams 2005-2007. Never mind that every single player on the roster in 2007 spent more time with Miles than Saban. Never mind that we've had good qb play in 2006,2007,2009,2011,2013, but that doesnt fit the bullshite argument that Miles has never had a good qb.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:03 pm to
Miles should take a look at what Cardale did in his past three games. He seemed pretty efficient in passing when he needed.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:04 pm to
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Mett was a redshirt junior in 2012.



It was also his first snap of fbs football and he lost 3 starting olineman and his starting rb to injury.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:06 pm to
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Miles should take a look at what Cardale did in his past three games. He seemed pretty efficient in passing when he needed. 


Yeah if only he could find a 250 lb mobile qb with a rocket for an arm. I don't think people realize that Cardale didnt start over Barret because of his off the field attitude.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63392 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:10 pm to
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It was also his first snap of fbs football


How many snaps did Sims have before this year? Barrett/Jones? Marshall in 2013? Winston? Manziel in 2012?


So apparently it's not impossible, or only once in a lifetime talent that can run a great offense in year 1.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:13 pm to
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How many snaps did Sims have before this year? Barrett/Jones? Marshall in 2013? Winston? Manziel in 2012?


Glad you accepted that you can't win the offensive play calling argument.
Posted by PG
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2012
2590 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:14 pm to
The offense did suck really bad this year because of Jennings inability to pass the football. Nothing pretty about the 116th ranking passing attack in the country.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6707 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:25 pm to
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How many snaps did Sims have before this year? Barrett/Jones? Marshall in 2013? Winston? Manziel in 2012?


So apparently it's not impossible, or only once in a lifetime talent that can run a great offense in year 1.


Again you are talking about something so rare, and just because it's been done recently, that every first year QB should be able to do it.

In all the years of CFB how many times has a 1st year QB won the NC. And of those how many were a RS Soph like Jennings?

And no maybe it's NOT impossible and NOT a once in a lifetime thing, but before Manziel when was the last time aTm had a QB to do it. And before Winston when did FSU have a 1st year QB do it? And before Jones? So maybe not once in a lifetime, but maybe once in a lifetime for each school. This is rare stuff and you throw it around like anyone should be able to do it.

And you are not Nostradamus. Maybe LSU does it in the next few years... then they would have accomplished it as many times as any other school of late.

But of course we all know who you are. We know your reply. Don't bother with the same old tired hater rhetoric.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:26 pm to
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So apparently it's not impossible, or only once in a lifetime talent that can run a great offense in year 1.


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Barrett/Jones? Marshall in 2013? Winston? Manziel in 2012? 


Are you serious? Ok yeah its not impossible if you have 2 Heisman winning qbs (manziel and Winston)or a 250 lb athletic qb with a cannon. Yeah its not impossible if you have one of those.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2518 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:26 pm to
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they aren't who we thought they were


Or maybe the even more true"we have met the enemy and it is us".
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:27 pm to
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Again you are talking about something so rare, and just because it's been done recently, that every first year QB should be able to do 


I think, he thinks, Manziel, Winston and Cardale are normal.

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And of those how many were a RS Soph like Jennings? 



Jennings was a true sophmore.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 3:28 pm
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4858 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:30 pm to
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The overt problem with this explanation is that we weren't "ripping off runs going up and down the field" against teams with above average defenses, such as Alabama and Arkansas


Arkansas maybe, they beat us down. But with just a below average passing game LSU wins against Bama. It was a close game even after we just ran up the middle every play.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6707 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:33 pm to
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Jennings was a true sophmore.

Ahhh ya, good point and strengthens my point. Thanks
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
13858 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:37 pm to
Doesn't Miles answer get you so excited about the offense next season?!?!? Lol
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46996 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:44 pm to
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7 of 14 passing in the bowl game? Is that the actual numbers? That has to be the lowest passes attempted by any team in the entire bowl season. Then he wants to get snarky just because a guy asked him a question about it?


What most knuckleheads can't seem to understand is that if we threw it more our percentage would probably go down. A pass, for LSU, was basically a trick play - and we were still around 50%.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8449 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:57 pm to
I was just addressing the Arkansas game. I'm okay with favoring the run in our other games as you're right, it was better than passing it. But when you're losing, and getting 1 ypc, continuing to run it inside late in the game feels a bit like giving up.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86822 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:10 pm to
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quote: Lee was great for 8 games No he wasn't. Lee had his shite games in 2011. Oregon, kentucky, and bama were horrible games by Lee.


Bama was not part of the 8 games. Lee did what was asked of him against oregon, and Kentucky was incredibly windy. But check his efficiency stats through 8 games. He was top 2 in passng efficiency in the SEC and had a very good TD:INT ratio. But you're probably one of the tards that just looks at passing yards and nothing else.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63392 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:13 pm to
Your point sucks. I started the "first snap in FBS" comparisons when arguing about 2012 with another poster. 2012 we had a RS Junior quarterback, who I and the Tennessee Titans think pretty highly of. He has every bit the quarterbacking talent as every player already mentioned except for Winston.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63392 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:15 pm to
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Lee did what was asked of him against oregon, and Kentucky was incredibly windy.


I wonder what else could have possibly distracted Lee in the Kentucky game? Was there any other distraction to the qb position that game that wasn't there previously?
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6707 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:16 pm to
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Your point sucks. I started the "first snap in FBS" comparisons when arguing about 2012 with another poster


Your B.S. hate mongering has been debunked by more than just me. Move along. You are embarrassing yourself.
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