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re: Miles playing his usual poker
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:32 am to Uncle Stu
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:32 am to Uncle Stu
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just holding back the big-boy plays for the big-boy games
If you are an opponent, you spend a lot of time patterning the LSU offense. 1st down, off left guard, etc....
When Les and the coaches draw up a bland offense, that gives false and or inadequate info for the opposing teams to pattern. It is not just the halfback option pass or wheel route that we saw with Ware last year in big games, it is the entirity of the patterning and play scripting that I am referring to. It is not just about the secret playbook.
Miles runs the most bland playbook that he can against the weak teams that he knows we will beat with one hand tied behind out back. He also gets good playing time for players in the mean time. Miles would rather win by 14 instead of 40 (like Stoops, etc...) and be freakin bland and show as little as possible.
This is smart, Miles does it, and if you don't get this, then you are not very bright.
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 10:34 am
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Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:35 am to therocketscientist
No doubt Miles vanilla concrete offense helps to set up the occasional tight end reverse, keeping the 4th down conversion percentage high.
That's also what everyone said leading up to the epic UF game of 2009.
LSU's offense was so bad leading up to the game that people thought Miles must be saving something -- some secret RS package...and no...
The defense played more than good enough to win that one and LSU's offense...ouch.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:39 am to therocketscientist
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LSU has Ware in a wildcat package
you were not supposed to mention this. it was not one of the scripted questions.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:41 am to Coater
Damn Strong OP 
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:41 am to Tigertown in ATL
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Why would we do anything other than pound the lines against KY?
I agree, with this year's team, I think we should continue to run the I in between the tackles till someone can prove they can truly stop us. But this past week, I actually thought we threw on 2nd down too much. But that's neither here nor there. The game plan was the game plan. Once you decide on how you're going to attack the other team on offense, you plan, and spend the entire week implementing the plan till Saturday's execution of that plan. Obviously, based on the opponents strengths and weaknesses, you favor certain packages and plays over others. But, the notion that somehow Miles has this entire section of the playbook with a big red elephant on the tab taped off DO NOT OPEN is laughable to me
quote:
difference in the defense this past week
I was speaking only to the offense
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:51 am to Uncle Stu
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there's no anger, it's just a dumb premise. For as long as this board has been clamoring on about Miles, every year, it's "he's just holding back the big-boy plays for the big-boy games" and yet, week after week, we see virtually the same offense.
quote:I like Miles. I think he's a lot smarter than people give him credit for.
nope, still not - regardless, doesnt change the fact that nothing in his track record to show he purposely witholds entire sections of the playbook simply because he doesnt want to "show his hand." that's just wishful thinking by the fan base
Nevertheless, I completely agree with your assessment that he is not trying to hide the ball. He hasn't tried to hide the ball since he's been here. The offense remains constant over the course of the year.
Miles will try a trick play every once in a while, but there are no significant scheme or package changes for important games.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:02 am to therocketscientist
Outstanding post - I agree exactly.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:08 am to therocketscientist
Awww The Rocket Scientist has blessed us with his insightful knowledge!
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:20 am to 13SaintTiger
I dont necessarily look at what the OP said as exactly it, but I dont see the people who are saying this is completely off as correct either.
Miles may not have a fool proof plan to hide certain things, but we also know he hasn't shown everything. We havent had to really run anything tricky yet this year, and you know he has some tricks up his sleeve.
You also know he is going to rest some guys as well as give some younger guys some experience as often as he can. He knows that when a star leaves, he has to have someone ready to take the post. To think he doesn't have a clue what he is doing is simply insane. This isn't his first rodeo. And no coach pulls out all the cards when they are playing a vastly inferior team like we did this past week.
He got our main backs some rest as well as some experience for our younger backs. He got JJ some snaps to try and get him game ready when he would need to come into a bigger game and take a QB sneak or weak side option. He also probably did it this game to be less of a distraction than in the nationally televised and more important Florida game. He made sure people didn't expect him to play so there wouldn't be a lime light on his playing time, and that made it much easier to swallow for a lot of people.
Overalll, there is a plan, but I think he is showing his cards but protecting his players and giving as much experience to those who he feels needs it.
Why would he run a pass happy offense in a game when we will NEVER be a pass happy offense? He wanted to run the game just like he would any other game so we can get the experience of any game we will play, not some crazy pass happy contest. This wasn't to not show something as much as just playing a normal game.
Miles may not have a fool proof plan to hide certain things, but we also know he hasn't shown everything. We havent had to really run anything tricky yet this year, and you know he has some tricks up his sleeve.
You also know he is going to rest some guys as well as give some younger guys some experience as often as he can. He knows that when a star leaves, he has to have someone ready to take the post. To think he doesn't have a clue what he is doing is simply insane. This isn't his first rodeo. And no coach pulls out all the cards when they are playing a vastly inferior team like we did this past week.
He got our main backs some rest as well as some experience for our younger backs. He got JJ some snaps to try and get him game ready when he would need to come into a bigger game and take a QB sneak or weak side option. He also probably did it this game to be less of a distraction than in the nationally televised and more important Florida game. He made sure people didn't expect him to play so there wouldn't be a lime light on his playing time, and that made it much easier to swallow for a lot of people.
Overalll, there is a plan, but I think he is showing his cards but protecting his players and giving as much experience to those who he feels needs it.
Why would he run a pass happy offense in a game when we will NEVER be a pass happy offense? He wanted to run the game just like he would any other game so we can get the experience of any game we will play, not some crazy pass happy contest. This wasn't to not show something as much as just playing a normal game.
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 11:22 am
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:30 am to therocketscientist
Wonderful analysis. I tip my hat to you sir!
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:56 am to Revelator
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Wonderful analysis
Some agree, some disagree. Looks like the rant is working !
Posted on 10/3/11 at 12:28 pm to Tradewinds13
Of course there is a master plan.
The master plan is this:
Develop all players skills to their maximum potential, use those skills as needed in games.
Obviously he was holding back plays involving Shepard because Shepard wasn't available until the WVU game. Likewise he's been holding back plays involving Jefferson because he wasn't available until this past week.
Now the team is back to full strength with various players having differing skill sets that will allow the coaches to call plays that have been unavailable to them up to this point.
That's why it's important having Jefferson back in the game because the more diversity of skill sets available, the more diversity of play selection the coaches have on the sideline and thus the more work an opponent has to do to prepare to play LSU.
It's not rocket science.
No offense, RocketScientist.
The master plan is this:
Develop all players skills to their maximum potential, use those skills as needed in games.
Obviously he was holding back plays involving Shepard because Shepard wasn't available until the WVU game. Likewise he's been holding back plays involving Jefferson because he wasn't available until this past week.
Now the team is back to full strength with various players having differing skill sets that will allow the coaches to call plays that have been unavailable to them up to this point.
That's why it's important having Jefferson back in the game because the more diversity of skill sets available, the more diversity of play selection the coaches have on the sideline and thus the more work an opponent has to do to prepare to play LSU.
It's not rocket science.
No offense, RocketScientist.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 12:48 pm to notiger1997
So the tight end around last year to beat Bama was an aberration?
Posted on 10/3/11 at 1:35 pm to Uncle Stu
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nope, still not
There's not a coach in America that could make you happy.
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