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re: Miles-Krag and the JJ situation
Posted on 4/18/11 at 4:49 pm to Tigerfan53
Posted on 4/18/11 at 4:49 pm to Tigerfan53
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If he is the starter I hope they bring in Mett in passing situations or when we are behind in a game.
I seriously hope not.... We might as well start Mett if that's how we are going to use him. Why would you throw him in only when the going gets tough? JJ should be able to handle it if LSU falls behind or if the offense is in bad situations. If JJ cannot handle the offense in bad situations, then we need to start Mett. I don't like putting QBs who rarely play in tough situations, it asking too much of them. If JJ is unable to convert 3rd and longs, or if JJ loses his cool if LSU falls behind, then he needs to be benched
Posted on 4/18/11 at 4:54 pm to tduecen
As usual, any pro JJ statement is posted you have to jump in and set them straight! Tell em tduecen! We will not have any positive comments about JJ on here. Only constant repetitive bashing is allowed according to you.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 4:55 pm to bojabu
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Thus, I say sit TZ as long as we have moderate Qb play and hopefully when JJ and JL graduate, TZ can really do some damage while giving our backups another year to prepare.
So would you consider a 3rd straight year in the 100's in offense "moderate QB play?"
Posted on 4/18/11 at 4:59 pm to boxcar willie
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JJ really isn't as bad as he is made out to be by these people on this forum. He actually doesn't suck. There aren't many teams in the SEC who wouldn't love to have J Jeff on their roster this coming season.
He was the absolute number 1 unquestioned WORST starting qb in NCAA Bowl Subdivision last year.
It's a fact, not the SEC...not the East Coast....ALL of FBS.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:01 pm to CptBengal
What purpose does it serve to continuously trash the guy? It's getting out of hand on here. Borderline embarrassing we have fans that will relentlessly trash players on the team that they claim to support.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:02 pm to CptBengal
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He was the absolute number 1 unquestioned WORST starting qb in NCAA Bowl Subdivision last year.
It's a fact, not the SEC...not the East Coast....ALL of FBS.
In fact.. you have to go back to 2006 to find a quarterback who threw only 7 TDs over the course of a season. That takes the top-100 QBs each year, fwiw. I didn't bother to look beyond 2006 either.
Oh, and he threw for ~300-400 more yards than Jefferson did. As a freshman who only came in because the starter got hurt (~3 games into the season)
This post was edited on 4/18/11 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:15 pm to BeeFense5
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What purpose does it serve to continuously trash the guy?
I didn't trash him.
Those are his stats. He played last season and produced those results. They are FACTS.
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Borderline embarrassing we have fans that will relentlessly trash players on the team that they claim to support.
It's like stating so-and-so had so many yards on so many carries, etc.
Except JJ's stats are actually that pathetic that he rates as the worst in FBS.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:21 pm to BeeFense5
quote:I am sorry you take this so personal.... I guess you have enjoyed the poor QB play over the past 3 seasons...
BeeFense5
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:24 pm to BeeFense5
quote:Critical of QB play = bashing
What purpose does it serve to continuously trash the guy?
quote:So no criticism what so ever, warranted or not you must only be positive even though QB play over 3 years has been borderline atrocious.
It's getting out of hand on here.
quote:Again... Criticism = thrashing.....
Borderline embarrassing we have fans that will relentlessly trash players on the team that they claim to support.
I guess you have never been critical of anyone, the president, your boss, or your friends. You must be Gandhi....
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:27 pm to tduecen
No, but I do think its ridiculous that if you aren't leading the pitch fork and torch mob against JJ then you aren't allowed an opinion on here apparently. There isn't one good thing that comes out of constantly trashing JJ.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:28 pm to BeeFense5
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g the pitch fork and torch mob against JJ then you aren't allowed an opinion on here apparently.
opinions are you think JJ should be the starter.
JJ being the worst starting qb in all of FBS last season is FACT.
It's a FACT, hence no opinion necessary.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:28 pm to tduecen
It's bullshite that you call what has been going on here just criticism. I would hope that you could see that. It's way past criticism.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:30 pm to BeeFense5
quote:Apparently I am not allowed an opinion since it is one you do not like.... I mean you have made it a focal point to point out when someone is critical of QB play they are "bashing" thus you do not like their opinion and they should not voice it according to you...
JJ then you aren't allowed an opinion on here apparently.
quote:Again.... is being critical "trashing" I think you are a bit sensitive if you firmly believe that. Sure there are people that step over the line and make it personal but you have taken it to a new level that anyone who is critical is apparently "trashing" him.
There isn't one good thing that comes out of constantly trashing JJ.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:31 pm to BeeFense5
quote:How so? Where? Is it because you do not like it?
It's way past criticism.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:35 pm to tduecen
Every qb thread is full of the blatant hate posts. If you can call out everyone with a pro JJ post, why can't I call out the constant bashing posts? You are the one that takes pro JJ posts personally.
This post was edited on 4/18/11 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:38 pm to BeeFense5
quote:Link? Or is it just because people argue and say he is a below average QB, is that what you consider "hate"
Every qb thread is full of the blatant hate posts
quote:Who says I call everyone out... I think you saw a couple of times and now believe it is "every" time
If you can call out everyone with a pro JJ post,
quote:You can but again you take it personal as well
why can't I call out the constant bashing posts
quote:Nah... I've been here awhile and I voice my opinion, I am not the one trying to call out individual posters like yourself, therefore, it is obvious that it bothers you. The fact you have to attempt to try and call out posters. I feel sorry for you.
You are the one that takes pro JJ posts personally.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:40 pm to BeeFense5
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No, but I do think its ridiculous that if you aren't leading the pitch fork and torch mob against JJ
Good lord. Your interest would be best served to stay off the Rant until JJ graduates. You seem incapable of separating criticism of his play with criticism of the person. I don't care how he dresses, what music he listens to, how nice a guy he is. I care about how much he produces.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Roger stay out of this... can't you see I am "trashing" Jefferson by saying that statistically he is in the bottom half of CFB
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:44 pm to tduecen
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Sure there are people that step over the line and make it personal but you have taken it to a new level that anyone who is critical is apparently "trashing" him
You tell him td. One can never post enough negative stuff about Jefferson. One can never post the same old complaints enough. It is imperative that the constant drumbeat of negativity toward Jefferson continue.
You know I used to be one of these sunshine pumpers before my conversion and I admit I once thought that the unending negative comments were way too much. But I now know better. It is impossible to criticize Jefferson enough. It is impossible to post any single negative about him enough. In fact the more times each and every negative is posted, it is a victory for us and a defeat for the pumpers.
Not a single day must be allowed to elapse without a Jefferson attack. Not a single trite and stale complaint must ever be allowed to be forgotten. We must post and post and post. It is our validation.
You are also right to point out how overly sensitive the Jefferson supporters are. Don't you just get tired of their whinning? Any time a person that has several negative comments toward Jefferson is challenged by the sunshine pumpers, we have to jump in and call them on it. We can't have them challenging can we? Who knows where that might lead?
Posted on 4/18/11 at 5:44 pm to tduecen
You have this idea that I think JJ is definitely the one to lead us back to the BCS. I really don't think he is. But my whole point is what good is it going to do to constantly criticize the man? It doesn't serve any purpose. Really appears childish. I'm not sure what fans of a team would constantly dog one of the players. It's not being objective. Criticism is objective. Bashing and hate is childish and embarrassing and this board is overrun with it.
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