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Miles' drive to win - More, less or about the same?

Posted on 1/15/11 at 8:34 am
Posted by Soft_Parade
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 8:34 am
If the details of the new contract are correct, Les would receive an eight figure buyout if let go at any time over the next 4 seasons. This new contract proves without a doubt Miles is a sharp cookie and our administration is not. I am all for performance bonuses, but there also should be provisions - other than conduct and time - that would result in the buyout being reduced.

Would you be happy with 3 consecutive in conference records of 5-3 or worse and still being on the hook for $15 mill?

The multi-million dollar question: Does Les become complacent because of the guarantee, more determined than ever to show he is worth it, or unchanged?

2011 - $18.75
2012 - $18.75
2013 - $15
2014 - $11.25

For the record, I think he will remain unchanged with 5-3 or 6-2 records the norm, with one trip to Atlanta for the SEC title over the next 5 years.
This post was edited on 1/15/11 at 9:34 am
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 8:35 am to
Les does not strike me as a man motivated by money. If he was, then why would he do a contract without a pay raise ?
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 8:41 am to
Miles' drive to win is fueled by the want to prove rantards wrong.
Posted by The Sockster
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 8:49 am to
I don't think Miles the kind of guy that tolerate losing. Everytime I watch his press conference or when he is on the sideline I always notice that he has that squint in he eyes. The kind of squint that shows his desire and determination to win.

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert of eyes squint interpretation
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:22 am to
Well aren't you just a big bowl of sunshine
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:27 am to
Nothing can change a coaches motivation to win. He'd want to win just as bad whether he was getting paid 15 million or 15,000. I think that holds true for 99^ of coaches in emerica...100% true for all college coaches. He doesn't ever get to the point where he's making this kind of money without that motivation.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:28 am to
I'm not saying you, but I think some people really underestimate Miles' competitive drive. Dude loves to compete. I can't see him ever really getting complacent and phoning it in. I'm not sure any coaches ever really do, despite accusations to the contrary.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:33 am to
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For the record, I think he will remain unchanged with 5-3 or 6-2 records the norm, with one trip to Atlanta for the SEC title over the next 5 years.


what's your reasoning for this?
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:35 am to
When we beat Oregon, stay off the bandwagon.
Posted by Soft_Parade
North Carolina Coast
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:48 am to
quote:

what's your reasoning for this?


Past performance

2005 - 7-1, trip to Atlanta
2006 - 6-2
2007 - 6-2, trip to Atlanta and BCS Title
2008 - 3-5
2009 - 5-3
2010 - 6-2

Five of his six seasons included 2 or more conference losses.
Posted by Soft_Parade
North Carolina Coast
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:49 am to
quote:

When we beat Oregon, stay off the bandwagon.

Miles does very well out of conference.
Posted by RBWilliams8
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:52 am to
Sure, he'll just coast the rest of the way to retirement.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:56 am to
I think the OP has a point I mean other than the bama game this year does Les strike you as a coach that doesn't sleep 2 days before the game preparing.

So I see why the OP would ask. However, I would like to point out that Les is from the days of the Bo & Woody rivalry. I think Les very much likes competing in the SEC and will continue to have the want to win

Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 10:04 am to
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Past performance


past performance is certainly a data point, but you also have to look at recruiting momentum, and the fact that he's making changes at OC. Although if he does average 2 losses with a trip to Atlanta over the next 5 years, he'll probably be right there with the coaches of bama, arky and auburn.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 10:05 am to
quote:

The multi-million dollar question: Does Les become complacent because of the guarantee, more determined than ever to show he is worth it, or unchanged?


I thought about this the other day. My thought is that now he doesn't have to look over his shoulder or worry about being "bought out" over a mediocre season, so I think he let's it all hang out now. He's probably comfortable knowing that the slightest mistake won't cost him his job. Let's be honest, every single screw up since he's been hired has been dissected and broken down and had people calling for his head. We saw flashed of the old Les again in 2010 with the fake punts/field goals, reverse calls on 4th and 1, things like that. I think from now on he's all in for every game and doesn't play it close to the vest or simply try to protect leads to protect his job. He knows this is 100% his team for years to come now so he can coach loose.
Posted by Soft_Parade
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 10:07 am to
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OP


What does that stand for? I am sure I have been called worse.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 10:12 am to
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Five of his six seasons included 2 or more conference losses.


4 of Saban's 5 seasons here we had 2 or more SEC losses. Including a 3-loss season that we won the SEC. Or you, could look at like Miles has ONLY lost 2 games in 4 of 6 seasons. Whereas Saban only accomplished that feat once in his 5 years. Yes, Saban only lost less than 3 SEC games one whole time here.
Posted by Soft_Parade
North Carolina Coast
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 10:13 am to
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but you also have to look at recruiting momentum


When has he not had momentum/a good class? My only concern is the price LSU has to pay if he end up cranking out Richt like seasons. It does appear that 3-5 was the anomaly but the SEC is not getting any easier.
Posted by Soft_Parade
North Carolina Coast
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 10:14 am to
quote:

4 of Saban's 5 seasons here we had 2 or more SEC losses


Saban is gone. You need to let it geaux.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 10:19 am to
quote:

If he was, then why would he do a contract without a pay raise?

Because most people can struggle by on $3,750,000 a year
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