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re: Miles DOES NOT Win Games He's Not Suppose to

Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:45 pm to
Posted by jmath23lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
811 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:45 pm to
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Oh and he made an even bigger BONEHEAD decision by playing JLEE instead of Shepard in the 4th Q when Jefferson went out.


Yeah, really boneheaded, going with the guy that has 8 starts vs. the guy who has never thrown a pass and frequently doesn't know where he's supposed to be.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26663 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:46 pm to
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Oh and he made an even bigger BONEHEAD decision by playing JLEE instead of Shepard in the 4th Q when Jefferson went out.


Are you aware good sir that both you and my pinky toe have the same IQ?
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:47 pm to
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Oh and he made an even bigger BONEHEAD decision by playing JLEE instead of Shepard in the 4th Q when Jefferson went out.


OK, with this statement you have officially labeled yourself as a retard and I can forever disregard your future posts.


And no, I'm not going to explain to you why this statement was retarded.
This post was edited on 11/11/09 at 11:48 pm
Posted by JRish
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2009
2498 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:48 pm to
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Alright you dumb asses. If you are the HC of a team and you lead your team on the road, or play at home in a Conference opponnent, that means A) You either were lucky (in the SEC, you don't really get lucky that often or B) You are a helluva coach because you can take your talent, which in our case is equally good if not always better than our opponent, and win ballgames you are NOT suppose to win. That is what it means to be a GREAT Coach. Miles can't step up and coach us to a W that we are not suppose to get.

Maybe Miles should stop putting together such good teams so that they wouldn't be favored...

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Saban won many games we weren't suppose to win when he was here, do I need to name them?

You have to admit, Les Miles sure as hell hasn't lead us to disaster against UAB.
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Oh and he made an even bigger BONEHEAD decision by playing JLEE instead of Shepard in the 4th Q when Jefferson went out.


Do you watch the games? Shepard is great, once the ball is snapped, but he is a disaster before hand. Could you imagine him leading our offense. Forget completions, you have a run only offense that gets penalized every other play.
Posted by GEAUXfan
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2003
593 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:49 pm to
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in our case is equally good if not always better than our opponent, and win ballgames you are NOT suppose to win


If our talent is equally as good if not ALWAYS better than our opponent then how could there ever be a chance that we aren't favored to win?

You do realize that there are quite a few teams out there with PLENTY of talent.

How about coaches that lose to teams like.....say.....ULM?
Posted by caljammer82
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Member since Dec 2006
789 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:49 pm to
Hmm, lets play the superfast freshman that can move the ball down the field, or the guy who throws and INT and goes 4-10. Did you not watch LSU football in 2008? Lee couldn't start for any SEC team, much less ours. I say play the people that are the future in big time games for experience, so we can get them ready for their time to lead our team. But wait, Les Miles is our coach, so I can't expect him to do such a thing.

If you are telling me Shepard isn't as good as Lee, you need to get off Tigerdroppings and quit watching football.
Posted by caljammer82
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Member since Dec 2006
789 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:50 pm to
you are still not getting what I am saying. Jeez. Im gonna hope that you people don't go on road trips and have any football conversations with other fans.
Posted by JRish
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2009
2498 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:50 pm to
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USC doesn't go on the road in the PAC-10 and play in games he's suppose to lose. We do, like Alabama and UF this year. Listen to what I am trying to say here.

So which is worse, losing games you are supposed to lose or losing games you are supposed to win? Why can't a great coach be someone who fields the best team in the vast majority of his games, then wins with that team?
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36971 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:51 pm to
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Oh and he made an even bigger BONEHEAD decision by playing JLEE instead of Shepard in the 4th Q when Jefferson went out.


Sig quote material.

ranter of the week material.

Go root for another team because we don't need you material.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:51 pm to
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Did you not watch LSU football in 2008? Lee couldn't start for any SEC team, much less ours. I say play the people that are the future in big time games for experience, so we can get them ready for their time to lead our team. But wait, Les Miles is our coach, so I can't expect him to do such a thing.


Jesus tapdancing Christ.

Do you realize what a QB does pre snap? Sounds like you think he just gets the ball and makes magic happen.
Posted by jmath23lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
811 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:52 pm to
I'm telling you that the super-fast freshman, that has shown sporadic ability to move the ball down field while running, is not the best option when trailing a game late in the 4th quarter.
Posted by JRish
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2009
2498 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:54 pm to
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caljammer82

I feel bad because everyone is teaming up on you, but really, if you win the ones that you are supposed to and field the best team possible, that is a recipe for success.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26663 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:54 pm to
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If you are telling me Shepard isn't as good as Lee, you need to get off Tigerdroppings and quit watching football.


You should seriously go to the help board and push for this. I'll have your back, promise.
Posted by caljammer82
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Member since Dec 2006
789 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:54 pm to
It is MUCH worse, again IMO, to lose games we are suppose to WIN than lose games that we are suppose to lose. This is the entire point of my post. I want to see us beat somebody that we are not suppose to beat, meaning an Underdog on the road or at home i.e. vs Florida and @ Alabama this year. Does this not make sense???????
Posted by JRish
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2009
2498 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:56 pm to
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I'm telling you that the super-fast freshman, that has shown sporadic ability to move the ball down field while running, is not the best option when trailing a game late in the 4th quarter.

And Jarrett Lee won the job last year by bringing us back from behind after Hatch went down. The 4/10 statistic is also misleading. He started out 4/6. Then in his final drive went 0/4 with an interception, but people weren't getting open and he had that good pass to RJ Jackson that got called back on a penalty.
Posted by jmath23lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
811 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:56 pm to
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you are still not getting what I am saying.


I get exactly what your saying. Miles sucks because he hasn't beaten a team when LSU is the underdog. Except for those times he did. And other coaches who have been equally successful, but lose to inferior teams (ie. Saban with ULM, UAB. Carroll with Stanford, Oregon State, UCLA) are better, because on occasion they win a game they weren't favored to win.

Refresh my memory though, of the time Saban, Carroll, or Meyer beat a team more talented than theirs.
Posted by Skooter
Member since Jun 2008
2257 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:57 pm to
Before I get into the meat of what I want to post, here is an answer to your first moronic question:

What games have we won that we were supposed to lose?

2006
@ #8 Tennessee - 28-24

@ #5 Arkansas - 31-26
(Though, I'm sure you'll make an attempt at refuting this with some dumb-arse argument like "We almost lost those games.")



And you can't skew the facts merely to support with your theory:


Miami and Georgia Tech were both favored.

Not to mention the little matter of Ohio State being favored in the National Championship. They were ranked higher and a lot of the media (ESPN in particular) were picking them.
Posted by caljammer82
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Member since Dec 2006
789 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:58 pm to
Doesn't matter, Lee is not the future, and Shep is, until we find a better one. And last season was a joke. I would have rather us installed an option attack and kept it on the ground than Jarrett Lee letting the other team score all the time.

The best players should play no matter how inexperienced they are. Thats how you get better, and 2010 is the year for the Tigers and I want to see Shepard making plays next year which I know he will be.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26663 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:59 pm to
I'm gonna make a prediction and say he comes back with something along the lines of "Those were OOC!! The SEC is where the REAL football is played"

Posted by caljammer82
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Member since Dec 2006
789 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 12:00 am to
Skooter, if you read my initial post, how significant is the Peach Bowl? Really? And I am only talking about games that are under Miles and that we were underdogs and won, especially in conference. That Tenn game we were favored. and when was Arkansas ranked #5, never when we played them under Miles.
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