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re: Miles bashing
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:this is a large part of it IMO.
I think its just a pop mentality and people parrot what they hear.
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:00 pm to Lonnie4LSU
How many of these top coaches has Miles beat? Most if not all that the Tigers have played. And I know you haters are going to cry when I say this but most intelligent fans knew that kicking Ryan P. off the team was going to hurt the team for the next 2 years. When you have great coordinators, they get hired somewhere like Nebraska. His replacement hurt the team and Coach Miles had to hire another. Miles does recognize weaknesses and corrects them. This years team will reflect on more maturity at the QB position and better coaching with his new hires. Miles is a good coach. He isn't perfect like the tards on here. How many of the bashers make 4 mil a year?
This post was edited on 7/29/10 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:01 pm to TGFN57
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His record speaks for itself
Amen!!
I don't know what is wrong with the best 5 season results in LSU history, but then I never claimed to be a college football expert...just an LSU fan who has seen the bad, good, and elite times.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:19 pm to rickyh
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How many of the bashers make 4 mil a year?
May we add all our annual incomes?
Not a "basher" and I agree that losing RP was a major body blow to the football program, but it's time to put that behind us and time for our team/QB's/coaching staff to play more like we did in 05-07. imo
Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:40 pm to Lonnie4LSU
When viewed in a vacuum, I understand your comments, but
Georgia and LSU aren't as easily comparable as some would like them. Georgia has a much more difficult time recruiting than LSU. Using just distance:
LSU is over 200 miles away from these serious programs:
Miss. State
Ole Miss
Alabama
and the next closest in Texas A.M. at over 300 miles away.
Now look at Georgia:
Georgia Tech and Clemson are less than 100 miles from UGA.
Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama, and South Carolina are all less than 200 miles from UGA.
The next closest are Florida State and Vandy (I know, not really a serious program) are less than 300 miles from UGA.
and Florida is just over 400 miles away from UGA.
So there are six major DI football programs with 200 miles of UGA, as compared to ZERO for LSU.
Despite this, since Richt took over, Georgia has the best win-loss record in the SEC (90-27) tied with Florida (whose gone 13-1 in three of the last four seasons) and ahead of LSU (90-28).
You'll be hard pressed to find a football reporter who didn't tell you that Michigan's cupboard was bear when Rodriguez got there. He'll compete for a BIG 10 title in two years.
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I think in 04 and 05 Ga might have been the best program in the SEC, but since then I would rank them behind Fla, Bama, and LSU.
Georgia and LSU aren't as easily comparable as some would like them. Georgia has a much more difficult time recruiting than LSU. Using just distance:
LSU is over 200 miles away from these serious programs:
Miss. State
Ole Miss
Alabama
and the next closest in Texas A.M. at over 300 miles away.
Now look at Georgia:
Georgia Tech and Clemson are less than 100 miles from UGA.
Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama, and South Carolina are all less than 200 miles from UGA.
The next closest are Florida State and Vandy (I know, not really a serious program) are less than 300 miles from UGA.
and Florida is just over 400 miles away from UGA.
So there are six major DI football programs with 200 miles of UGA, as compared to ZERO for LSU.
Despite this, since Richt took over, Georgia has the best win-loss record in the SEC (90-27) tied with Florida (whose gone 13-1 in three of the last four seasons) and ahead of LSU (90-28).
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As to Rodriguez, he has taken a 20-6 Michigan program in 06 and 07 and turned it into a 8-16 program in his 1st two seasons.
You'll be hard pressed to find a football reporter who didn't tell you that Michigan's cupboard was bear when Rodriguez got there. He'll compete for a BIG 10 title in two years.
This post was edited on 7/29/10 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:52 pm to Antonio Moss
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Now look at Georgia:
Georgia Tech and Clemson are less than 100 miles from UGA.
Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama, and South Carolina are all less than 200 miles from UGA.
Georgia has a population of nearly 10 million people. Alabama and Scar are also pretty fertile recruiting areas, as of course...is Florida. Georgia Tech isn't a recruiting mecca and i would think Georgia would be at an advantage with an in state population larger than any SEC school except for Florida.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Georgia has a population of nearly 10 million people. Alabama and Scar are also pretty fertile recruiting areas
It's tough to argue that Georgia, SC, and Alabama are better recruiting states than Louisiana.
Even if you account for the populations of the region, you're still competing against six different schools as compared to zero for LSU.
And GT is a top 25 program. If they're not a serious school, then neither is Texas A.M., Ole Miss, or MS State (our three closest).
Posted on 7/29/10 at 3:16 pm to Antonio Moss
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It's tough to argue that Georgia, SC, and Alabama are better recruiting states than Louisiana.
Not doing that, just stating that the Georgia, Scar and Bama have a population of almost 20 million. Both Scar and Alabama have larger populations than Louisiana even though there are two FBS schools in the state. What it comes down to is Georgia should be raking in the recruits. It has a population closer to Ohio than Louisiana, and GT really isn't much competition.
Bama is doing a great job IMO, UGA is doing a shitty job. There is no excuse for the bulldogs not to have a top five class every year.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 3:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Not doing that
Well, wouldn't the number of quality recruits that come out that region be the only relevant statistic?
Louisiana as more quality recruits year in and year out than GA, SC, and AL. The fact that these states may have a greater general population is pretty irrelevant.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 3:38 pm to Antonio Moss
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Louisiana as more quality recruits year in and year out than GA,
Louisiana and Alabama are similar. Georgia puts out many more D1 recruits, and as high quality as La. SC is an up and coming recruiting state and has had kids ranked in the top ten the last couple of years.
This post was edited on 7/29/10 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 7/29/10 at 3:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Actually, you're probably right.
Georgia probably has more quantity, but LA may be a little more top heavy.
Regardless, the differential isn't enough to overcome the teams in the area.
Georgia probably has more quantity, but LA may be a little more top heavy.
Regardless, the differential isn't enough to overcome the teams in the area.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 3:49 pm to Antonio Moss
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Georgia probably has more quantity, but LA may be a little more top heavy.
This year, which is supposed to be Louisiana's best in a long time, the state of Georgia and South Carolina both have as many kids ranked in the top ten of ESPN's recruiting rankings as Louisiana.
The advantage Louisiana has is that there is only one BCS school in state. I guess "top recruit" could be a little subjective though.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 3:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This year, which is supposed to be Louisiana's best in a long time, the state of Georgia and South Carolina both have as many kids ranked in the top ten of ESPN's recruiting rankings as Louisiana.
I looked at the the last 3 years on Rivals. LSU has more 5*, GA has more 4*.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:00 pm to Antonio Moss
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I looked at the the last 3 years on Rivals. LSU has more 5*, GA has more 4*.
Gotcha. Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:34 pm to Antonio Moss
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You'll be hard pressed to find a football reporter who didn't tell you that Michigan's cupboard was bear when Rodriguez got there.
I wouldn't know bout that so you might be right, but I do know Michigan played in the Rose Bowl in 06 and beat Fla in the Capital One bowl in 07 and we know what Fla did in 08. So, just looking at that, I'm hard pressed to believe that suddenly in 08 Michigan talent nosed dived to only being able to average 4 wins in the next two seasons, but who knows.
I also know that Michigan didn't have a losing season between 68 and 08. I don't think Rod will make it past another poor season, but who knows.
As to Ga, they are ranked 11th in the list of NCAA winning programs. Doesn't seem like recruiting has ever been a problem for them.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:39 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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As to Ga, they are ranked 11th in the list of NCAA winning programs. Doesn't seem like recruiting has ever been a problem for them.
And they were tied for #1 in the SEC under the Richt era, which is an improvement.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:42 pm to Antonio Moss
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I looked at the the last 3 years on Rivals. LSU has more 5*, GA has more 4*.
SERIOUS here. What is the difference between a 5-star and a 4-star???? And who was put in CHARGE of putting a certain STAR on a player??? Its a bunch of BULL if you ask me. Cause 5-star or not YOU have to be COACHED at the next level.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:44 pm to dukke v
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SERIOUS here. What is the difference between a 5-star and a 4-star???? And who was put in CHARGE of putting a certain STAR on a player??? Its a bunch of BULL if you ask me. Cause 5-star or not YOU have to be COACHED at the next level.
Very little difference between a high 4* and a 5* for the most part.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 5:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Very little difference between a high 4* and a 5* for the most part.
Very true and you just can't tell how a player will do once they leave HS and step up to the next level. Great example from 1982, Garry James was the 5 star back from the big New Orleans school. The whole country wanted him. Dalton Hilliard was a 2 star from a small school near Morgan City. Everyone knows who was the better player.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 5:12 pm to Antonio Moss
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And they were tied for #1 in the SEC under the Richt era, which is an improvement.
I'm not knocking MR. He has a fine record.
My point was the last Ga championship was in 2005. Since that time LSU has had a west title, an SEC title, and a NC. I don't know bout you, but a NC in my book packs a wallop of a punch when comparing records/coaches.
That's why I think, at this point in time, LSU/Miles has done better since 05 than Ga/MR.
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