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re: Miles and Cameron
Posted on 12/24/15 at 8:53 am to UnAnon
Posted on 12/24/15 at 8:53 am to UnAnon
It really is that close...but just not sure we have the right qb to get us there. People laugh...but just think if we had a qb that could hit on a third and 7 and keep the chains moving...with our run game
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 8:58 am to ODoyleRulez
Your family should tell that person it is their fault for the clown show they are running. You really expect a top notch Oc to come here when you were essentially one half away from firing the coach? Ha-ha good luck with that.
Alleva, Alexander and the board has now handcuffed the program.
Alleva, Alexander and the board has now handcuffed the program.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:01 am to ODoyleRulez
I have no problem with Cam being renewed, but he does not deserve a raise or to be the highest paid OC in the country. He should be offered the same deal Steele has, 1 million a year for 3 with the Miles clause. That would still keep him as one of the highest paid coordinators in the country.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:02 am to boxcar willie
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For the first time in their careers this year, Miles/Cam started trying to implement some of these concepts
This will get lost because it has no factual bases and you completely made up every thing you said.
If you are off work today and Tom, go watch replays of LSU, idiana, OSU, chargers, ravens.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:03 am to boxcar willie
quote:This guy gets it. I'll go a step further and say that its not the "play calling" thats the problem but more the play design. The route patterns rarely see open receivers and again just depend on our man beating their cover guy. No combination/rub routes or anything designed to get our guys open.
'll say this one time and really it should be in it's own thread but the problem Miles/Cam have is that while the rest of football understand that it is better to get defenders out the way by formation and play calling, while they still believe in straight up man on man out physicalling the opponent., In other words by 'spreading' the defense vs straight up overpowering them. Also the rest of football world believes in deception and motion to move defenders to help open up plays as well, whereas Miles/Cam don't understand this concept.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:05 am to OleSkuleTgr
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This guy gets it. I'll go a step further and say that its not the "play calling" thats the problem but more the play design. The route patterns rarely see open receivers and again just depend on our man beating their cover guy. No combination/rub routes or anything designed to get our guys open.
Your right, our receivers have never been open.
Let's just ignore the dozen times Harris missed an open LF or wide open Jeter.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:06 am to dgnx6
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You really expect a top notch Oc to come here
we really didn't need a 'top notch ' OC, but just about anyone would do. Like Peterson from La Tech run a very good offense and I'm sure he could be lured here with enough money and with the prestige of turning around a major college offense would look good on his resume.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:11 am to boxcar willie
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we really didn't need a 'top notch ' OC, but just about anyone would do. Like Peterson from La Tech run a very good offense and I'm sure he could be lured here with enough money and with the prestige of turning around a major college offense would look good on his resume.
And if he doesn't? He will be looking for a new job. That's the thing, LSU wont offer job security.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:14 am to dgnx6
Im not saying that Harris is perfect, he's not. But we sure dont give him much help with the passing scheme we run. I cant tell you how many times Ive watched from the upper deck on 3rd and 7 and 3 wides all run a 7 yard hook. Our routes are so easy to cover that its comical. i will admit that when we do finally go to a tight end or runningback that they are usually open but it is way too seldom to even matter.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:26 am to OleSkuleTgr
You must have missed all the badly thrown balls to open recs when we had third and 7. Most of time play would have gone for first down but rec had to adjust for ball and gets decleated short of first down...when an accurate throw would resulted in big play. That's even when we are able to complete it. One game last year saw dural, diasre, and fournette all get hurt due to poorly thrown balls.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:27 am to OleSkuleTgr
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Our routes are so easy to cover that its comical. i will admit that when we do finally go to a tight end or runningback that they are usually open but it is way too seldom to even matter.
exactly. With the way defenses crowd the box and as few times as we attempt to throw we should have our primary target receiver running wide the frick open nearly every time but that's not the case.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:28 am to dgnx6
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And if he doesn't? He will be looking for a new job. That's the thing, LSU wont offer job security.
doesn't matter, even one year at a school like LSU would be huge on his resume.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:29 am to OleSkuleTgr
quote:Never seen this and would need a link for cred.
4 3rd and 7 and 3 wides all run a 7 yard hook.
If you said 3WRs run deep posts and flags, I'd consider.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:31 am to dgnx6
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Your right, our receivers have never been open. Let's just ignore the dozen times Harris missed an open LF or wide open Jeter.
even a squirrel finds a nut, what about down the field tough guy?
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:34 am to OleSkuleTgr
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This guy gets it. I'll go a step further and say that its not the "play calling" thats the problem but more the play design.
exactly. Another person who gets it. It's really not our play calling as much as it is our play designs and also formations.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:38 am to Tigerinthehollow
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It really is that close...but just not sure we have the right qb to get us there. People laugh...but just think if we had a qb that could hit on a third and 7 and keep the chains moving...with our run game
that's not nearly the whole problem but your right in that the QB certainly isn't helping our cause of trying to get a better offense. If we could only accomplish hitting open recievers underneath when we do get them, it would go a long way.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:08 am to UnAnon
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Miles doesn't tell Harris to throw the football 6 feet above his receivers or to completely miss them.
Yet somehow, 13 people have downvoted this
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:11 am to boxcar willie
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Also the rest of football world believes in deception and motion to move defenders to help open up plays as well, whereas Miles/Cam don't understand this concept.
If Miles doesn't believe in deception, then where in the world did the Mad Hatter nickname come from? I know Cam wasnt here at that time, but to say deception and motion are foreign concepts to some one nicknamed the Mad Hatter and some one with significant NFL experience is pretty far off base.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:34 am to boxcar willie
quote:You're reaching for magic bullets, or staff discredits.
It's really not our play calling as much as it is our play designs and also formations
CFB teams are copycats that practice mostly all the same combos within their scheme and some just execute better, therefore featuring them more than others.
Different formations didn't really help LSU, unless the execution was there.
The staff hasn't been able to replicate practiced plays in games is the problem.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:42 am to Mayhawman
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CFB teams are copycats that practice mostly all the same combos within their scheme and some just execute better, therefore featuring them more than others.
on the one hand you want to say we run a "pro style" different from other colleges, on the other you want to say our offense is a copy cat of all other college programs.
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Different formations didn't really help LSU, unless the execution was there.
of course we need good execution, we just haven't been getting it with this OC for whatever reasons of which there are many
If you can't see that our offense system is different than most other colleges I really can't help you
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