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Michigan loses by 29 and drops 1 spot
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:56 pm
LSU wins by 36 and drops 1 spot
Your 2019 college football playoff committee, ladies and gentlemen.
Your 2019 college football playoff committee, ladies and gentlemen.
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:58 pm to Desert King
Cincinnati drops one spot. Michigan drops one spot. Wisconsin jumps four spots.
Meanwhile Alabama plummets seven spots and Minnesota falls ten spots.
All of Ohio State's opponents are ranked lower in the AP poll. The committee manipulates the rankings to conform to and support their own agenda.
Meanwhile Alabama plummets seven spots and Minnesota falls ten spots.
All of Ohio State's opponents are ranked lower in the AP poll. The committee manipulates the rankings to conform to and support their own agenda.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:03 pm to Cs
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Cincinnati drops one spot. Michigan drops one spot. Wisconsin jumps four spots
All played OSU.
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Meanwhile Alabama plummets seven spots and Minnesota falls ten spots
Did not play OSU. Plus, Bama played LSU.
The committee has a clear agenda. I have been pounding my chest saying that LSU will be back at #1 after beating Bama, but it became crystal clear tonight that it will not happen. There is no logical reasoning for any of the crap that happened. It's a very clear and obvious bias in the committee room. I don't really understand why though.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:03 pm to Desert King
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Michigan loses by 29 and drops 1 spot
LSU wins by 36 and drops 1 spot
Your 2019 college football playoff committee, ladies and gentlemen.
The rankings don't happen in a vacuum. So if Michigan should drop further someone behind them would move up. So who should that be? Notre Dame lost to Michigan by 30. Iowa lost to them by 7. Memphis or Boise? Minnesota?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:06 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The rankings don't happen in a vacuum. So if Michigan should drop further someone behind them would move up. So who should that be? Notre Dame lost to Michigan by 30. Iowa lost to them by 7. Memphis or Boise? Minnesota?
That's all fine and dandy, but when you compare it to what the committee has done in past weeks it does not fit. Why was Minnesota ranked behind Penn St when Minnesota had the head to head?
Wouldn't Minnesota falling way down to 18 suggest the committee doesn't think they are good? If that's the case, why did Wisconsin get such a big bump forward?
Why should Bama have fallen off the map, after losing by 3 to Auburn, but Michigan drop one spot after losing by 29? What they are doing is not consistent from week to week, or even consistent within the rankings of different teams.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:06 pm to Desert King
There is no doubt. I looked at the rankings and the complicating factor specific to Michigan is that they beat Notre Dame and Iowa, which served to keep them higher in the rankings, but still below PSU. Michigan is a mediocre 3 loss team, but a “name” team.
The Big 10 is what it is just about every year, except for the semi-emergence of Minnesota this season.
The Big 10 is what it is just about every year, except for the semi-emergence of Minnesota this season.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:13 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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There is no logical reasoning for any of the crap that happened
There is but too many are not looking at the entire picture and only what you wantto fit your narrative.
What is the logic behind looking at how many spots teams dropped without looking at other teams and who is ranked ahead or behind them? In the case of Alabama, they have zero ranked wins. Their best win is a 7-5 team that just lost 50-7. So who should they be ranked over? The only argument you can make for Alabama to be ranked over anyone from 5-11 is the eye test. FYI saying Alabama would beat any B1G team is the eye test. So if we use that for Bama, why shouldn't we use that for Ohio State?
For Michigan again i asked who behind them should be moved up? The computers and all the data actually have Ohio State #1, so what dark agenda is there putting them #1?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:14 pm to Desert King
And Bama loses by 3 points on a chip shot FG and penalized for 12 men on the field giving AU a 1st down to gift wrap the win ... drops 7 spots...the committee even ranked Penn State in front of Bama to justify OSU’s SOS while weakening LSU’s SOS with Bama losing....what’s funny is how the committee was trying to justify Bama @ #5 hoping wishing praying that Bama would beat AU in the Iron Bowl ...they wanted to prove to the College Football World that Bama deserved to be considered even though they played a weak SOS...they figured they passed the eye test, #1 in recruiting and well, they are just Bama... with a healthy Tua there’s not a team from #5 to #10 that could beat Bama but since Bama lost , oh well they are considered a nobody now... like my friend who played college basketball for 2 years for the Washington Huskies yrs ago told me his coach told him after he broke both arms after being undercut going in for a bring the house down jam... “ you can’t do me any good anymore”.... so says the Committee about Bama....
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
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In the case of Alabama, they have zero ranked wins. Their best win is a 7-5 team that just lost 50-7. So who should they be ranked over?
There were ranked over plenty of one loss teams, and even some undefeated ones before. Why were they before, and now they drop like a rock? I understand what you are saying, but there is no consistecy. That's the problem I have with it.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:27 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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hat's all fine and dandy, but when you compare it to what the committee has done in past weeks it does not fit.
Every week is different, so again it doesn't happen in a vacuum.
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Why was Minnesota ranked behind Penn St when Minnesota had the head to head?
That only happened after Minnesota lost and i would assume because Penn State overall has/had a better resume. They have more quality wins and a better SOS.
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Wouldn't Minnesota falling way down to 18 suggest the committee doesn't think they are good?
Again you are too hung up on the # of spots. #18 is still a good team but their overall all resume is much weaker.
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Why should Bama have fallen off the map, after losing by 3 to Auburn, but Michigan drop one spot after losing by 29?
Because Bama at 5 had further to fall and was franky probably ranked to high to begin with, while Michigan was basically at their floor. Again who behind Michigan should be higher and who ahead of Bama should be lower?
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What they are doing is not consistent from week to week, or even consistent within the rankings of different teams.
I hate to sound like a broken record but it doesn't happen in a vacuum. You can't have a standard of a team should drop X spots with a loss by Y points. Or we dropped this team 5 spots after a loss 2 weeks ago so we have to drop that team 7 spots because they lost worse this week. I get why you think its illogical but you have to look at the entire picture and not with emotion because you are upset your team isn't ranked #1.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:28 pm to Desert King
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:31 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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There were ranked over plenty of one loss teams, and even some undefeated ones before. Why were they before, and now they drop like a rock? I understand what you are saying, but there is no consistecy. That's the problem I have with it.
In part because they were over ranked at 5 but the data is constantly changing. Their best win is A&M who is now 7-5 but 2 weeks ago was 7-3. Last week they played UGA tight this week they got destroyed, how should that be factored?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:32 pm to Cs
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The committee manipulates the rankings to conform to and support their own agenda.
Agreed. Further, both the SEC and Big Ten have 14 teams. The SEC played MORE Power 5 non-conference football games and had a higher win % vs. P5 non-conference opponents. How do these current CFP rankings make sense? The CFP committee is saying they think the Big Ten is a better overall conference when the objective data doesn't point to that.
4 Big Ten schools didn't play a P5 non-conference opponent:
Indiana, Wisconsin, Minnesota & Illinois
2 SEC schools didn't play a P5 non-conference opponent:
Tennessee & Arkansas
SEC vs. Power 5 non-conference 9-6 (60.0%)
BIG Ten vs. Power 5 non-conference 6-5 (54.5%)
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:32 pm to H-Town Tiger
I was on your side of the fence until tonight. I think LSU deserves to be ranked ahead of OSU next week, with a win. And maybe they will be, and this is all for nothing. I believed this would happen, until today, which is why I'm melting.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:34 pm to lovinLSU
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he committee even ranked Penn State in front of Bama to justify OSU’s SOS while weakening LSU’s SOS with Bama losing
OK, so tell me why Alabama should be ranked ahead of Penn State? You can't based on resume. If you say its because they would totes destroy Penn State, well that's the eye test so if you want to use the eye test for Alabama over Penn State, why would you object to using it to rank Ohio State over LSU? Which position is more consistent?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:42 pm to H-Town Tiger
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OK, so tell me why Alabama should be ranked ahead of Penn State?
Tell my why Bama was ranked ahead of Penn St when they each had 1 loss?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:45 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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I was on your side of the fence until tonight.
my thought was after we gave up 600 freaking yards to Ole Miss, that with OSU was #1 in the first ranking and with them closing with 3 top 10-15 teams we'd likely remain #2 unless they atruggled and or we just hammer UGA (which i don't think is likely). And while i get it and agree we'd rather play Utah/OU/BU than Clemson, i really don't care. We're 2 in a 4 team field, win 2 games and we are the champs.
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I believed this would happen, until today, which is why I'm melting.
That's an emotional response, and i do understand but you really are not in a position to question logic in that state
I also understand you saying the movements are inconsistent but isn't saying LSU should be 1 based on resume but Alabama should be ranked over Penn State and Wisconsin based on eye test inconsistent?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:02 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Tell my why Bama was ranked ahead of Penn St when they each had 1 loss?
Mostly because of the eye test but the data changes, it's not static, their best win lost its last 2 games. But to use an analogy, you are saying the rankings should be written in pen and last weeks rankings should dictate this weeks, i prefer writing them in pencil and starting fresh. What they were ranked last week shouldn't matter. What you are arguing for is EXACTLY what they old polls were like
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:08 pm to Desert King
Does anyone on the committee actually believe Wisconsin would beat any of the sec teams ranked lower than them? Auburn Alabama and Florida would wreck Wisconsin
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