re: michael ford

Posted by markthetiger

alexandria

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 8:53 pm to Books

no common sense are you les's brother, mother, father, etc.? cause you defend him visciously

Posted by Geaux9

Mandeville

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 8:53 pm to Books

That was deffinitly a boom. The only way he knows anything about those players is from a recruiting web site

Posted by Books

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 8:55 pm to Geaux9

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he only way he knows anything about those players is from a recruiting web site

or he watched RS throughout the year avg 7 ypg when the rest of the offense did next to nothing. Nevis has been at LSU three years.

Posted by MOT

Member since Jul 2006

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:07 pm to Books

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Nevis has been at LSU three years

Sounds like it is time for him to grab some bench and make room for a freshman.

Shepard wasn't used properly, but it wasn't because he was a freshman.

This post was edited on 6/21/10 at 9:08 pm

Posted by windriver

West Monroe/San Diego

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:16 pm to MC123

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man i can't wait to see this guy be the third option behind two upper-classmen

I can see him being THE RB.

Posted by MC123

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:46 pm to Uncommon Cents

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Tell us a little about what you witnessed at practice every day. Tell us how they picked up the designed plays. Did they pick up the reads too? What were their reactions and intensitity levels every day in the drills? What about off the field preparation, how was that? How did they perform in team meetings?
And while you are at it tell us what defensive adjustments Florida and Penn State made. I really really want your imput on how the offensive game plans were drawn up. What personnel matchups did the coaches determine would work? I am truly fascinated by your indepth and insider view. Your big time coaching experience must be awesome.
After all of the practices you attended and all the meetings you made, you must be full of information.

I have no insider information, nor do you.

I can, however, tell you that Charles Alexander started 13 games in 2009, while Drake Nevis started 0. And, Alexander recorded a whopping 29 total tackles for the year, and Nevis recorded 50. I guess you need college coaching experience to see who the more productive player was? Care to debate me on that one?

How about RS not touching the football in two of the biggest games of the season...did you agree with that?

I will admit, that the next season examples I made are purely speculation on my part, but I firmly believe that Ford will go down as the best RB that is on this years roster when it is all said and done. Same goes with Loston at S. It seems to me that stud freshmen at other schools get regular playing time from the get-go, when ours repeatedly haven't picked up the playbook yet, or whatever other BS excuse Les spews at the time.

Go ahead, pick any 1 of the situations from 2009 i listed, and debate me...please.

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Posted by MC123

Baton Rouge

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:48 pm to Geaux9

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The only way he knows anything about those players is from a recruiting web site

I don't read any recruiting websites, message boards or publications of any kind. I watch the games, OBJECTIVELY, and closely monitor stats/productivity.

Posted by StreetDiction

Austin

Member since Dec 2009

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:05 pm to MC123

don't even get me started on the upperclassmen thing. It's ridiculous. yeah, we misused Shep. He also got picked up and slammed a few times. Once by a Vandy defender.

Check out K. Williams freshmen year and see how many more carries he got than our upperclassmen RBs. and yeah, Nevis played good as a backup, so did Alem 2 years ago and look what he did as a full time starter.

also, the position being played matters. RB is a lot easier to get playing time as a freshmen than DB, DL or Safety. and I didn't have to go to any practices to figure that out.

Ford is physically ready to play this year, RS wasn't. Can't wait to see both of them this year. Shepard and Randle will be a huge part of the offense. I suppose someone will say Ware and Boone should play over them and Les is screwing it up though.

Posted by Mike Linebacker

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:07 pm to MC123

Since you monitor things so closely, did you happen to notice Josh Downs get significant playing time as a true freshman? Or that Reuben Randle, one of your "examples" worked his way into the #3 WR despite being only 18 years old. Now, I happen to think Randle will be a stud but he wasn't exactly the second coming of AJ Green despite getting PT.

I'm with you on Shep but the rest of this is just wrong, conjecture or both.

Posted by MOT

Member since Jul 2006

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:20 pm to MC123

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pick any 1 of the situations from 2009 i listed

Drake Nevis - Does he even fit your argument? You stated something about behind a third option behind "upper-classmen" when referring to Ford. Nevis was an upperclassman. He also played a ton. You mention Alexander's starts, but who took more snaps? I have no idea what the answer is, but I'm wondering if you even bothered to check. Nevis started games as a freshman and sophomore, maybe something else went on last year? He was in the worst shape of his career, could that have played a part?

Shepard - Wasn't used properly. Was it just because he was a freshman? Absolutely not. Do you think he didn't get any touches against Florida and Penn St. just because he was a freshman? That makes no sense. Why did he get touches on the road against Georgia and Alabama? Again, I'm not going to say the staff had a good plan for how to use him, but saying they didn't have a good plan because they didn't want to because he was a freshman is really a stretch.

Rueben Randle - What did you see from him early to make you think he should have been #3? Did he not get in several early games? Did he run good routes? Did he block? How many times did our QB even look for someone that wasn't wearing a 1 or an 80 anyway?

Posted by JJ27

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:28 pm to MOT

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Do you think he didn't get any touches against Florida and Penn St. just because he was a freshman?

Don't know about Florida, but that is 100% of the reason why he didn't touch the ball against Penn State. Les said it himself. He gave Trindon, a senior, all of RS's touches since it was his last game at LSU.

Posted by MOT

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:35 pm to JJ27

Ok, do you have a link for that?

Posted by JJ27

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:38 pm to MOT

It's been posted here many times. I honestly don't feel like looking it up right now. I'll give it a go though.

Posted by JJ27

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:43 pm to JJ27

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Q. Not that it would have made a big difference in this game, but you said several times during the year we'll see more of Russell Shepard and again we didn't see him today. Is there a disconnect between and you the offensive coaching staff?
COACH MILES: No. We'd like to have gotten Russell Shepard in the game. We felt like 8 was doing a really good job, and we didn't not only on returns, but taking the ball from scrimmage, some of the runs that he had, and those would have been Russell Shepard snaps. It ended up we played him more at receiver in this game and didn't get him on the field, and his snaps at running back were curtailed by the fact that our opponent had the ball for the length of time they had.

LINK

Posted by MOT

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:51 pm to JJ27

I guess I'm missing something. Where exactly does it say he got all of Shepard's snaps because it was his last game and Shepard was only a freshman?

Posted by JJ27

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 11:00 pm to MOT

Wow...it never ends. You're right, it had 0 to do with age. Les chose to sit a kid averaging over 6 yards a carry just for the frick of it. He also just so happened to say that all of Shep's carries went to senior Holiday. All Hail Les!!!! GREATEST COACH EVER!!! HE IS INFALLIBLE, NEVER, EVER DOUBT HIM!!!

Posted by JJ27

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 11:03 pm to JJ27

BTW, Trindon had 4 carries for 10 fricking yards with a long of 11 yards. So 1 carry for 11 yards, and 3 for -1. Yeah, he was DEFINITELY doing such a great job that Shepard should've stayed in Baton Rouge.

Posted by MC123

Baton Rouge

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Posted on 6/21/10 at 11:03 pm to MOT

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Drake Nevis - Does he even fit your argument?

he is a prime example of what i'm talking about. Charles Alexander was a senior, Nevis wasn't. Again, which one do you think is better? I think Nevis, but certainly, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. And LSUsports.net doesn't list snap counts that I could find.

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Rueben Randle - What did you see from him early to make you think he should have been #3?

More potential than the others. I saw it the very first time I watched him in warmups. He is quite the specimen. The more playing time, the sooner he will be a stud.

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How many times did our QB even look for someone that wasn't wearing a 1 or an 80 anyway?

True, but WR do alot more than just catch passes. Seems to me like RR is a pretty damn good blocking WR too.

This post was edited on 6/21/10 at 11:13 pm