re: Mediocre is 2 - 9 versus ranked teams over the last 2.5+ seasons

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I thought I explained "the common perception"?

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lol, noooo Dan, you threw all these things out there, and then you ended it with that quote, that all these things were "coaching" to you.

It's a simple question. Is that your perception on what coaching is all about? Or is that the common perception on what coaching is all about?

You need to decide this before we go on any further. I'm not mocking you. I'm making a very valid and solidly based point.

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So it is Miles fault. Congrats.

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Some things sure. Never said otherwise.

All things... not really.

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But the common perception is that coaching is just clock management or x's and o's or gameplanning.

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Alright, good. How do you know that this is the common perception on what coaching is?

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Alright, good. How do you know that this is the common perception on what coaching is?

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Because there's probably 100+ threads about it started on here every day.

And most of the time they involve the use of terms that are easy for most people to learn and repeat without any actual knowledge of.

It's the same thing politically... A strong majority of the population believes Obama raised taxes. It's just as easy for them to say "Obama raised taxes" as it is to say, "Miles didn't make adjustments."

Doesn't make either opinion any more correct.

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But the common perception is that coaching is just clock management or x's and o's or gameplanning.

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It isn't the common perception. Most of is are not ignorant hayseeds and realize what it takes to be the executive of a college football program.

There are things Mils has done well and unlike yourself, I thing recruiting is one of them. Developing talent isn't one. Unfortunately for Miles, his players attending classes isn't going to get him any more job security.

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Doesn't make either opinion any more correct.

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you still don't get it.

You didn't present as an opinion, you presented it as a fact. Not once, until you got called on how ridiculous the statement was, did you backtrack until you finally had to make up "well it was just an opinion". No, you didn't present as such. You presented it as "the common perception."

You're using terms like "probably", "most of the time", these are "assumption" words. You're assuming, and you're grabbing at straws, and you have no idea whether that's the "common perception", and even if so, you're confining yourself to this board in doing so...which would be in direct conflict with what a "common perception" would be without a direct reference to your base.

You used a political example....not a good move. You cant point to studies done to prove your point at any time, and that's plausible. but you can't just throw out there that you automatically know what the majority of people define "coaching" as.

Here, by definition is the kicker, however.

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Now, if you want to argue that some of the responsibilities of the head coach are some of those that you point out earlier, that's entirely up to you. However, they aren't part of "coaching", it completely contradicts what the word inherently is defined as.

What's more....those who want to attack Miles based upon his training, instruction, and preparation truly attack his COACHING, consistent with it's proper use. You just can't start assigning what words mean in the broader context of the world....we have modern day dictionaries for that.

Now, if you want to throw your own perceptual definitions to the English language, that's up to you. But you can't present them as an inherent fact, like you did. Plus, if you're using this board as a base to substantiate the claim, I think you and me both know that's not accurate in the slightest.

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Most of is are not ignorant hayseeds and realize what it takes to be the executive of a college football program.

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Not really.

You do, surely. But most, don't.

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There are things Mils has done well and unlike yourself, I thing recruiting is one of them. Developing talent isn't one. Unfortunately for Miles, his players attending classes isn't going to get him any more job security.

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Ha, I'm not sure why you are mistaking what I said earlier as Miles doing a poor job recruiting, but hey, to each his own I guess.

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you stated it as fact, not opinion. You're back crawling your way out of it....which I expected.

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This is such a pathetic straw man.

It's a fricking message board. Everyone states shite as fact.

No one comes on here and qualifies every fricking thing they say as..."Now this is just my opinion."

Of course it was my opinion...

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Why don't you provide any historical context to your numbers?

Why not other coaches five year spans?

Why not give any heed to other mitigating factors that may result in losses?

Why does everything have to be about coaching?

Coaching is THE most overrated aspect of college football in the way it is commonly perceived.

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This is your original statement Dan. You even made sure to capitalize "THE" to make it inherently clear that this is irrefutable....unless you just decided to highlight that one word just for the hell of it.

It's ok, but that statement is inherently wrong. I can't believe you don't understand this, I suppose I gave you more credit for being logical and a tad bit more intelligent.

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You got me good....

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*sigh*

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to instruct, direct, or prompt as a coach

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to train intensively (as by instruction and demonstration)

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to act as coach of

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to give instruction or advice to in the capacity of a coach; instruct: She has coached the present tennis champion.

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You're just being stupid at this point. Please don't be. You should be better than that. Don't sink to that idiotic level, please keep your wits about you.