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re: Mediocre is 2 - 9 versus ranked teams over the last 2.5+ seasons
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:27 am to OBUDan
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:27 am to OBUDan
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No because your answer is going to be, "We have many of the same players from 2009 so it must be the same."
Actually no. I am shocked you even said that.
You really don't know...
Holy shite.
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Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
Same players, coaches, etc.
I meant continuity from last year to this year.
I meant continuity from last year to this year.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:28 am to OBUDan
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Why does something happening in 2009 matter more than something in 2006?
Are you this ignorant?
Are you completely disregarding the simple facts that can be observed with a basic eye test?
2005, 2006, 2007 are night and day different than the football we are seeing in 2008, 2009, and 2010
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:33 am to DrSteveBrule
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Are you this ignorant?
I was trying to be more tactful. I was shocked as well.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:36 am to OBUDan
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If you picked up the Bible and read that the Earth was created in 7 days, that must be a "FACT" right?
Aye, you believe you have the "rub" here do you? Ok, I'll bite.
Can you prove where this is not a fact? If you would search hard enough, there are certain facts to be promoted to both sides of such an argument. However, it is presented in the Bible as an absolute truth is it not? I cannot prove that it is or isn't.
However, by your own admission, your own statement is presented as an absolute truth, yet can be very easily disproven as being false, as has been done repeatedly even by your own admission. You even assigned your own definition to the word "coaching", which invalidates your original statement to begin with.
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Do you not possess the capability of recognizing a communal context?
If this were a poster with a track history of disruptive and false posts, I wouldn't be so harsh. However, you have a history of being semi-objective. I assumed you more intelligent, but you seem to be sinking somewhere lower this evening.
As far as "communal context", that is the incorrect usage of the word "context" in this sense.
LINK
I highly recommend this for reading on the proper usage.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I was trying to be more tactful. I was shocked as well.
Don't bother being tactful.
Douchebags like this are just trolls trying to get a rise out of others, call em out for what they are.
If he believes any of the shite he spews then he doesn't know the first thing about good football.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:39 am to jdrumdog
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I told you I would prove your statement wrong, and I have, repeatedly. Again, you're welcome to get as upset or angry as you want.
Here's the thing though, you haven't proven anything wrong.
I give up trying to get you to understand message board language. I suppose you would interpret "LOL" as a misspelling too if someone text you that.
I'm not upset or angry. You continue to fabricate how you'd wish me to feel in this situation, as if I'm so damned angry that you intellectually triumphed me. Aw, shucks!
My original statement was that "Coaching is THE most overrated aspect of college football in the way it is commonly perceived."
Okay, let's assume you are correct in asserting that I'm stating this as a fact.
Do I need to scroll through your posts in this thread to prove that you have done nothing to prove this is a false statement?
Here's what you did: You asked me about 15 questions about what I perceive to be coaching (which is strangely, venturing into the world of my opinion... per your request). You provided the dictionary definition of coaching. You told me that proves I'm wrong.
If you take the statement as fact, it may be false, but not by any of the reasoning you have sought to apply to it.
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I apologize, but you lack the intelligence needed to grasp the concept of absolute truths and the lack of discipline you have in presenting your argument against it.
You are factually incorrect.
More Straw man from you... surprise surprise.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Actually no. I am shocked you even said that.
You really don't know... Holy shite.
this is becoming very apparent. I gave him too much credence.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:41 am to DrSteveBrule
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Are you this ignorant?
Are you completely disregarding the simple facts that can be observed with a basic eye test?
2005, 2006, 2007 are night and day different than the football we are seeing in 2008, 2009, and 2010
Eye tests say Keiland Williams is a better running back than Charles Scott.
Eye tests are bullshite.
The results of 2005, 2006 an 2007 are surely different than 2008, 2009 and 2010.
It's fine, believe what you want. I'm too tired to try and argue my point right now...
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:43 am to DrSteveBrule
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Don't bother being tactful.
Douchebags like this are just trolls trying to get a rise out of others, call em out for what they are.
If he believes any of the shite he spews then he doesn't know the first thing about good football.
Are you fricking kidding me dude?
Seriously?
I'm a troll for having a opinion that differs from yours?
I'm a troll? Jesus Christ.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:44 am to OBUDan
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My original statement was that "Coaching is THE most overrated aspect of college football in the way it is commonly perceived."
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Here's what you did: You asked me about 15 questions about what I perceive to be coaching (which is strangely, venturing into the world of my opinion... per your request). You provided the dictionary definition of coaching. You told me that proves I'm wrong.
If you take the statement as fact, it may be false, but not by any of the reasoning you have sought to apply to it.
I have applied no reason. I have given you simple facts.
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I give up trying to get you to understand message board language.
So no we're on to message board language? So we're going to pretend to dumb down your posts. I suppose if you want to dumb them down, I can go ahead and assume that what you post from here on out is complete opinion and should not be accepted as fact, correct?
I appreciate you calling yourself out, but there was no need.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:45 am to OBUDan
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I'm a troll for having a opinion that differs from yours?
Again, if you would understand what you're doing with your stances and your misuse of language, this should not be a shocking conclusion to come to.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:46 am to OBUDan
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Eye tests say Keiland Williams is a better running back than Charles Scott.
Eye tests are bullshite.
Exhibit A.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:46 am to jdrumdog
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I'm a troll? Jesus Christ.
When you say things like trends in 2006 matter the same as trends in 2009, yes, you are.
If you don't want me to call you a troll, don't make such absurd statements.
It has nothing to do with you having an opinion that differs from mine.
This post was edited on 10/29/10 at 2:47 am
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:49 am to jdrumdog
Look, Dan doesn't want to admit reality whatsoever. He's continually changed what the meaning of the word "is" is in this topic like 50 times.
He and morons like Choctaw will continue to deflect any blame from Les.
He recruits thugs than when they get kicked off the team after some being given multiple chances, it's not on Les that we had attrition since everyone takes on risks. Well actually most successful coaches either take on only a few or actually are stern leaders that show these types of players from the beginning that bullshite won't be tolerated.
In the end, nothing of actual substance is Miles fault to them. It's truly pathetic. When the stats suit them, we beat a #9 team in 2008 in Auburn. Nevermind that team went 5-7 and was an abortion of a football team, they were #9 in week 3.
At the same time, how people actually believe LSU has any shot at being a contender next season baffles me when they say the QB position is the only major reason we aren't this year. Is Rivers, a true freshman that everyone knows is even more raw than JJ was coming in, going to be the savior? Is Mettenberger, a kid that is yet to take a snap in an FBS game and actually commit and sign with LSU is going to fix these problems?
It's comical. Even in 2005-2007 we saw poor coaching from Les and his staff at times, but since we somehow went 11-2, 11-2, and 12-2 (2 losses in our NC year largely due to coaching mistakes), he's a great coach.
He and morons like Choctaw will continue to deflect any blame from Les.
He recruits thugs than when they get kicked off the team after some being given multiple chances, it's not on Les that we had attrition since everyone takes on risks. Well actually most successful coaches either take on only a few or actually are stern leaders that show these types of players from the beginning that bullshite won't be tolerated.
In the end, nothing of actual substance is Miles fault to them. It's truly pathetic. When the stats suit them, we beat a #9 team in 2008 in Auburn. Nevermind that team went 5-7 and was an abortion of a football team, they were #9 in week 3.
At the same time, how people actually believe LSU has any shot at being a contender next season baffles me when they say the QB position is the only major reason we aren't this year. Is Rivers, a true freshman that everyone knows is even more raw than JJ was coming in, going to be the savior? Is Mettenberger, a kid that is yet to take a snap in an FBS game and actually commit and sign with LSU is going to fix these problems?
It's comical. Even in 2005-2007 we saw poor coaching from Les and his staff at times, but since we somehow went 11-2, 11-2, and 12-2 (2 losses in our NC year largely due to coaching mistakes), he's a great coach.
This post was edited on 10/29/10 at 2:51 am
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:50 am to OBUDan
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More Straw man from you... surprise surprise.
A most interesting response. My argument has facts behind it, and dealt with your original statement in context.
Your argument has been backed with ambiguous terms such as "message board language", assumption language, and the misuse of "communal context", which technically speaking isn't a proper term.
I believe you might need a refresher on what a "straw man" argument is.
LINK
If anything, it certainly appears that you're trying to avert from having your original statement proven false by throwing different excuses in the way, such as the examples given above. You might want to reconsider such use of terms you are not familiar with.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:50 am to jdrumdog
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Can you prove where this is not a fact? If you would search hard enough, there are certain facts to be promoted to both sides of such an argument. However, it is presented in the Bible as an absolute truth is it not? I cannot prove that it is or isn't.
It is presented as absolute fact in the Bible.
And no, I cannot prove whether or not it is absolute fact, nor can you or anyone else.
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However, by your own admission, your own statement is presented as an absolute truth,
No, I never admitted that.
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You even assigned your own definition to the word "coaching", which invalidates your original statement to begin with.
Per your repeated request for my OPINION...
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As far as "communal context", that is the incorrect usage of the word "context" in this sense.
LINK
I highly recommend this for reading on the proper usage.
I'm not going to sit here and read an academic paper on context to appease you.
I've read plenty.
Why you feel the need to continue to demean me and promote your own intelligence is beyond me... and it's typically something only someone highly insecure in their opinion would resort to... sound logic and reason need no insults...
I've tried to explain it to you about 15 times.
You continue to want to take it to a level of intellectual debate as if we are in an actual philosophical discourse or something.
It's a message board. I'm sorry if TigerDroppings.com is your source of academic information regarding LSU football. It's a pathetic place to come if so. And I will gladly point you to another site which offers more intelligent discussions.
The fact is, this is a message board and one that allows, through gracious admins and site owner (Chicken) a free range of opinions.
I don't know how much time you have ever spent on message boards, and I'm not going to go lacing through your post history to pull out all the "facts" and "opinions" you've given to analyze how the information was "presented" to tell you whether or not it was fact or opinion.
In that case, you are taking a fricking message board far too seriously, misinterpreting commonly accepted speech patterns and attempting to assign meaning to something that isn't there.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:51 am to DrSteveBrule
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Eye tests are bullshite.
Eye tests are bullshite?
You've gotta be kidding me.
Why do you think the program is under so much heat right now despite having a good record? Any logical person KNOWS we are witnessing BAD football.
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It is presented as absolute fact in the Bible.
And no, I cannot prove whether or not it is absolute fact, nor can you or anyone else.
It's as much a fact as God tells us we should kill homosexuals.
This post was edited on 10/29/10 at 2:53 am
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:52 am to LSUMafia
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At the same time, how people actually believe LSU has any shot at being a contender next season baffles me when they say the QB position is the only major reason we aren't this year.
LSU will have the talent to compete for the NCG next year if the QB problem is fixed, but I am losing faith with ever passing game. I am not even sure Miles will make a move with Crowton.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 2:53 am to DrSteveBrule
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When you say things like trends in 2006 matter the same as trends in 2009, yes, you are.
If you don't want me to call you a troll, don't make such absurd statements.
It has nothing to do with you having an opinion that differs from mine.
:sigh:
Okay, here's the thing.
Statistical research indicates that there is no reason to believe that a PREVIOUS outcome dictates what the NEXT outcome will be. For instance... you flip a coin 75 times. 74 times in a row you get heads, through some miracle. There's still a 50% chance you are going to land tails on your next flip.
Does that make any sense? I'm not sure how else to communicate this...
Your interpretation is that the 2010 LSU football team should and will perform as the 2008 and 2009 football teams did... starting strong, finishing poorly.
Why do you believe this? What is your reasoning for believing this?
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