re: Mays or Smart?

Mays and smart are both listed 6’4. Mays is 10 pounds heavier. I do think Smart is more athletic and a better scorer though.

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I'm not trashing Mays,

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Maybe not “trashing,” but I wouldn’t exactly call the use of the word “middling” as anything positive.

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though he did have a propensity to boot layups.

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“Layups” are NOT the same thing as finishing at the rim where seldom does a player have a layup for a shot. But I wouldn’t expect someone who obviously knows little about basketball to understand the difference.

And if you had read my earlier post in this thread, you would have again seen just how wrong you are in that statement of Mays finishing at the rim. Last year he was over 75% (an elite stat) at finishing in non-conference play. The ill conceived notion most fans have about this statistic arises from the first part of conference play last year where he was bad, to the tune of 33% bad; and even admitted it during the year. But he came back the next 5 games after and went 85% at the rim and continued the rest of conference and postseason at a really good clip.

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Smart is taller, longer, and much more athletic than Mays.

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Mays = 6’4”
Smart = 6’4”
Hmmmm, you and I must have different definitions of the words “taller” and “longer.” Oh, and Mays has 10 pounds on Smart, which is crucial for guarding other big bodied guards or having to switch on forwards.

And use of the words “more athletic” is a pretty subjective description; so again, please tell me how you come to this conclusion?

Do I believe Smart came to LSU with a much better resume than Mays did? Hell yes. Does Smart likely have the higher ceiling? Probably so. Do I think he will be a big contributor this season? Most definitely. But to act as if Mays is just some pedestrian player compared to Smart, especially ignoring his 2 years of playing experience compared to Smart’s 0, is just asinine.

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Given the option of having two small guards, Waters/Mays

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Where the hell do you come up with this stuff? Do you not bother looking stuff up, or are you always a “talk out your arse” person?

As stated by PalmBeach and I, Mays and Smart are the same height and Mays even has more build on him, which would be expected after being in a college weight program for 2 years.

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Do I believe Smart came to LSU with a much better resume than Mays did? Hell yes. Does Smart likely have the higher ceiling? Probably so. Do I think he will be a big contributor this season? Most definitely. But to act as if Mays is just some pedestrian player compared to Smart, especially ignoring his 2 years of playing experience compared to Smart’s 0, is just asinine.

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OK fine, it's a good problem to have.


But Smart will get more minutes, score more points, and make more of an impact on the team.


When that happens, will you admit to being the asinine one?

Cant find from a quick search but wade said it during the post season NIT, might’ve been on the radio. Trying to remember, was Mayes banged up at the end of the season? Seems like mays didn’t start one of the late season games and was asked about it. He response was he didn’t start because he hadn’t been healthy to practice and as long as Wade was coaching LSU there would a place in the starting lineup for Mays.

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You are wound way too tight...

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Ah, the classic comeback of those who know nothing about what they are saying and hate when people call them on it.

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I sincerely hope you're a better lawyer than hoops predictor..

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Well seeing how I have consistently backed up my arguments and “predictions” (which I haven’t really made any other than to say Mays will begin the season as a starter) with actual facts and statistics as opposed to just taking crap and throwing it at the wall to see what sticks, which seems to be your approach; I would say that I’m doing pretty well on both fronts. But I appreciate your sincerity and concern for my profession. Ha

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Never once have I stayed anything negative about Smart.

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This is what being too wordy gets you.

Not to mention rambling on impresses nobody.

You know, I use to ramble on about stuff, kinda type whatever came to mind endlessly thinking it might be interesting to others, but you know it probably wasn't.
When I was a young boy, my mom always said that I should
express myself in some fashion, whether it be words or actions, you know express yourself. I miss my Mom, she dies a few years back. But she was correct, you gotta express yourself, or else it all stays bottled in.

aight then....

I have read the same things with wade on mays. I just think smart is basically a 5 star talent. Just won’t be able to hold him out of the starting lineup very long with guard play so important in college ball. Mays will probably start early and i said earlier wade could possibly go 3 guard line up for sec play as well. But then Taylor comes off the bench. Great problems to have.

One thing I'll give Mays, in Coach Jones's lame duck last year when understandably after the year before he'd lost the team, Mays was the only one on the team that I thought gave consistent effort. To me that shows something.

I haven't seen Smart play, and I'll reserve judgement him until I do. I've seen some highly touted players come in here and not live up to the billing before.