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re: Matt Flynn is NOT a championship quarterback

Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by shock504
Member since Nov 2009
62 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:11 pm to
Couldn't agree more on the issue of the Matts and their mediocrity...

I think JJ has more accuracy and vision potential than both and about the same smarts. I also think he's getting cooler under pressure, that certainly comes with time.

I think 90% of LSU fans are inflicted by subconscious racism they can't shake...ie...they think JJ can't do it because he is black.

Give our boy time and he'll be more than sufficient.
Posted by jesterJ
Near the Northern Lights
Member since Nov 2009
892 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:12 pm to
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Flynn never missed games due to injury (see SECCG and MTSU) nor Mauck (see UF) Jefferson is definitely not a wimp, if that is what you are implying. He is playing hurt (like Flynn in 2007) and getting up after taking hit after hit. JJ against Ole Miss was one of the toughest performances i've ever seen. He was getting hit on almost every single play in the 4th quarter and has no help from his oline or running game quote:She says that she sees other college QB's put down their heads and punish the other teams D. how many QB's do this? I saw JJ doing this early in the season until the coaches told him not to. Flynn and Mauck certainly didn't do this. Most QB's slide buddy. I guess Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, and almost every good QB slides. Flynn would get down before he got hit, its what a QB IS SUPPOSE TO DO. you've basically shown that you have 0 knowledge of football


Jefferson missed almost two quarters against Al bama and the whole Tulane game?

You are correct about the sliding part when they run and I pointed that out to her. BTW, look at the film and tell me what per-centage of the time does JJ actually slide? I'd be willing to bet it is about (maybe) 20%.

I suppose JJ doesn't have time to think about this or he was never taught this? How many years has he been playing the game. And another thing, many QB's still do attack the attacker, whether you like that or not, it is a fact and at all levels. Like I said about Mauch and Flynn; they have grey where it matters!

And football, yea you may know things that I don't but I'd bet I know many things that you don't as well....

It was I saying before the teams last game in T.S. for Senior night.....To all the players on the this Tiger Team =
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12433 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:13 pm to
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quote:

It's the defense, stupid!"


you got AT least one word right, and it isn't defense genius


U can always tell the ones who think they know the game of football....
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33408 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

Flynn-->Finished career with a 12-2 mark as LSU’s starting quarterback.

11-2




Miami (1-0)
Miss St (2-0)
Va Tech (3-0)
Mid Tn (4-0)
So Car (5-0)
Tulane (6-0)
UF (7-0)
Ky (7-1)
Aub (8-1)
Bama (9-1)
La Tech (10-1)
Ole Miss (11-1)
Ark (11-2)
OK (12-2)
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

Mid Tn (4-0)


wasnt that RP?

LINK

really has no impact on his success either way

quote:

OK (12-2)


OSU
This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 9:48 pm
Posted by aibo synthetic
into bolivian
Member since Nov 2007
3412 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:57 pm to
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Matt Flynn is NOT a championship quarterback
Matt Mauck either.

Tired of hearing JJ can't lead us to the promise land.

"It's the defense, stupid!"

ETA: for those who don't understand genius:

There have been a lot of threads about how JJ is not a championship QB. Truth is, WHILE FLYN AND MAUCK DID WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS FOR LSU, neither were obviously championship caliber before their championship seasons. Regardless "it's the defense stupid".


Subtext: The best offense in the country is Houston (not sniffing a title). The best defenses are AL and FL. Where are they playing again?



I get what you are saying, but if a team doesn't have a championship caliber defense, which LSU doesn't (or didn't this year), you need a championship caliber QB.
This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 10:33 pm
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10369 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

Matt Flynn is NOT a championship quarterback
Matt Mauck either.



Sir, I see graduating in the Dinardo era has had a profoundly negative affect on you.....in laymans terms, you are ignorant.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297484 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

I think JJ has more accuracy and vision potential than both and about the same smarts. I also think he's getting cooler under pressure, that certainly comes with time.

I think 90% of LSU fans are inflicted by subconscious racism they can't shake
...ie...they think JJ can't do it because he is black.

Give our boy time and he'll be more than sufficient.




This is one of the worst posts I have seen on this board. Not only wrong on many levels, but highly offensive and prejudiced.
Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
9907 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

I think 90% of LSU fans are inflicted by subconscious racism they can't shake...ie...they think JJ can't do it because he is black.


Judgmental much, aren't you?

quote:

Give our boy time and he'll be more than sufficient.


"Our boy"? So you are very much apart of the 90% racist LSU fans. Shake! Shake!

Nope. You can't shake it your own racist bullshite.
Posted by 40 Rouge
The Wasatch Back
Member since Feb 2009
2710 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 11:01 pm to
Posted by Hybrid Athletes
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
176 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 12:07 am to
i agree totally...2003 National Champs QB= Matt Mauck....2007 National Champs QB= Matt Flynn...I can totally see where your headed where these guys aren't CHAMPIONSHIP QB's...
Posted by Budroar
tucson
Member since Sep 2009
530 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 5:06 am to
TO bad Mauck or Flynn didn't play a year early (coaching decisions,injury)AND stay for another year we may have 4 or 5 NC that's how good they were! Smart thinkers new when to run with the ball , could feel the pressure.They both could pass well but didn't have to. Well balanced offense! etc.Some of u guys live on stats too much!Just win!!! I think JJ will be A OK if Miles does the right thing!!!
Posted by Budroar
tucson
Member since Sep 2009
530 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 5:13 am to
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This post was edited on 12/2/09 at 5:37 am
Posted by Budroar
tucson
Member since Sep 2009
530 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 5:13 am to
Davey,Randall,and Russell just o.k. they had all the talent around them. JJ gonna be great if Miles uses him right. M&M the best!
This post was edited on 12/2/09 at 5:26 am
Posted by Budroar
tucson
Member since Sep 2009
530 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 5:32 am to
quote:

Defense
OUR defense was ok when Flynn qb. Not great!
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 7:04 am to
quote:

"It's JJ...He's stupid"!


Fixed it for ya!
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12679 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 7:17 am to
Mauck / Flynn >>>>>> JJ
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 7:18 am to
quote:

Why can't we evaluate JJ based on his own merits?


'Cause he has none.

I realize that our line hasn't been good this year, but he hasn't seemed to learn how to get out of trouble...hasn't learned when to throw it away....hasn't learned when to run....hasn't learned to "listen to the clock in his head"......maybe the problem is that he just simply can't learn!
Posted by SouGent
Sherman, TX
Member since Jul 2007
1975 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 7:27 am to
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DUMBASS Post of the Year


For sure!!
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 7:29 am to
I'm just as dumb for responding, but what the hell. At least I'm aware of it.



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