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Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:31 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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you're doing a disservice to O by trying to paint the hire as a good hire. if you're so sure of the hire let his coming success do the talking. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread trying to shite on O recently
It's not every day that the new LSU OC beat a team/coach who was just given a $6 million per year contract.
Does that bother you?
Do you despise the fact that LSU's head coach hired an OC that beat a coach that went to the Rose Bowl?
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:36 pm to wildtigercat93
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It's a lot easier infusing some energy in a short term interim role than it is to actually create and maintain a program.
Oh really?
You want to tell the board about all these coaches who took over two P5 programs on losing streaks and had them finish ranked and in bowl games?
There must be a lot of them since "It's a lot easier infusing some energy in a short term interim role than it is to actually create and maintain a program".
Just name a few. You don't have to list ALL OF THEM, since there is SO MANY.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:37 pm to Tiger Ree
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Do you despise the fact that LSU's head coach hired an OC that beat a coach that went to the Rose Bowl?
This is real hilarious that you give credit to an OC for a win over a team, when the success of a certain HC as an OC was totally irrelevant in your eyes.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:39 pm to c on z
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This is real hilarious that you give credit to an OC for a win over a team, when the success of a certain HC as an OC was totally irrelevant in your eyes.
???
HC as OC?
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:42 pm to Tiger Ree
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It's not every day that the new LSU OC beat a team/coach who was just given a $6 million per year contract.
but that's not really the point of your post. the point of your post is to prop up o. if you're so sure of the hire why go out of your way to justify it?
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Do you despise the fact that LSU's head coach hired an OC that beat a coach that went to the Rose Bowl?
despise? no. I just find it funny youre still trying to talk up the hire of someone that wasn't even getting coordinator job offers for 29 years of his 32 year coaching career.
everyone that doesn't like the hire has stopped making thread shitting on O. we are trying to let the situation play out.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:44 pm to Tiger Ree
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HC as OC?
you don't give Herman credit for his time as an OC. come on.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:46 pm to Tiger Ree
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What the HELL are you talking about?
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Talking about CEO taking over a USC team that had gone 4-7 in its last 11 and going 5-2 with the same staff and players.
Talking about CEO taking over an LSU team that had gone 4-5 in it's last 9 games and going 6-2.
If you look at the losses LSU had, getting blown out by Arkansas and Ole Miss and USC's wins and horrible losses, 11-4 is pretty damn good.
I'm talking about the Rape stuff. What on earth was the point of that? You add some strange arse connotation when trying to prove your idiotic points.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:48 pm to wildtigercat93
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Nick Sabans career coaching record is 272-210
huh? Its 210-61-1
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:48 pm to Tiger Ree
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There must be a lot of them since "It's a lot easier infusing some energy in a short term interim role than it is to actually create and maintain a program".
wow. you really think it's harder to have some success as an interim coach on really talented teams than have sustained success as the head of a program? holy shite.
do you know how I know it's easier?
because ed orgeron did one of them and when he tried to do the other one it ended in the worst tenure ever at a program full of shite tenures. good god.
what's really funny is you don't even realize that when you post things like this you're showing everyone that our OC is more qualified to be Lsu's head coach than Ed Orgeron. when has ed orgeron ever run a successful side of the ball? neither O nor Canada have proven they can run a successful program but at least we know Canada would be able to run an offense
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:53 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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but that's not really the point of your post. the point of your post is to prop up o. if you're so sure of the hire why go out of your way to justify it?
Actually, if you look up at the top of your post and my OP, I am propping up the LSU OC - Matt Canada.
Props are in order for CEO hiring him. But, what Canada did last year speaks for itself. He is the LSU OC now and that is a good thing whether you hate it or not.
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despise? no. I just find it funny youre still trying to talk up the hire of someone that wasn't even getting coordinator job offers for 29 years of his 32 year coaching career.
What?
Orgeron, LSU's defensive line coach,was being courted to be defensive coordinator by Helton,
Read it and weep. Sucks that LSU's head coach was offered a coordinator position, doesn't it.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:58 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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you don't give Herman credit for his time as an OC. come on.
He finished in sixth place in the AAC with the most talented team by-far last season. He gained 303 yards against SMU in a 38-16 murdering. He gained 287 yards against Tulane.
Now don't get me wrong, I think that is all great and a very strong argument for his hiring by LSU. But, it was only his second year as a head coach and he did worse the further he went along. He was 4-3 to end the season and it would have been 4-4 but he hauled arse before the bowl game.
If Matt Canada had more talent than Clemson, Penn State, SMU, Memphis or Navy you think he would have put up 300 yards against them?
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:59 pm to Tiger Ree
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Do you despise the fact that LSU's head coach hired an OC that beat a coach that went to the Rose Bowl?
Do you despise the fact that O lost to a 14 pt underdog at home while they had 4 starters out with injuries?
Do you despise the fact that an O coached team scored the same amount of points against Bama as did Les Miles in what was widely considered the worse game in LSU history?
Do you despise that O hired an OC that ranked 98th in the nation in points for 2013, lower than any Les Miles team in his coaching history?
Posted on 8/18/17 at 5:01 pm to SportTiger1
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I'm talking about the Rape stuff. What on earth was the point of that? You add some strange arse connotation when trying to prove your idiotic points.
I posted a link. I am not aware of how unaware you are of college football happenings. You have not heard of the Penn State mess? You aren't aware of the Vanderbilt rape cases?
No? Read the link I posted and search for Jerry Sandusky. Then you will know a little about the history and current events of the PSU extension.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 5:06 pm to The Godfather
My bad I typed in the Gp vs GW 
my point still stands
my point still standsPosted on 8/18/17 at 5:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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do you know how I know it's easier?
because ed orgeron did one of them and when he tried to do the other one it ended in the worst tenure ever at a program full of shite tenures. good god.
Your hatred is EPIC. I love it.
Too bad he has done good things since he has been at LSU. I'm sure your bitterness grows daily. Suck it.
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when has ed orgeron ever run a successful side of the ball? neither O nor Canada have proven they can run a successful program but at least we know Canada would be able to run an offense
Think so? Well, Matt Canada will be running an offense for LSU this coming season. CEO doesn't need to.
CEO just needs to keep making great hires like with Hugh Freeze, Frank Wilson and Matt Canada. Two of which CEO gave them their first ever college coaching jobs.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 5:10 pm to Tiger Ree
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You want to tell the board about all these coaches who took over two P5 programs on losing streaks and had them finish ranked and in bowl games?
I can tell you about a lot of coaches who took over as interim had success and then fell flat on their face.
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There must be a lot of them since "It's a lot easier infusing some energy in a short term interim role than it is to actually create and maintain a program".
It's a pretty rare scenario for a big time program to fire their coach mid season. Do you really think it's not harder to run a program long term than it is to run a program for a few weeks or months? You can't honestly believe that.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 5:11 pm to Tiger Ree
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CEO just needs to keep making great hires like with Hugh Freeze, Frank Wilson and Matt Canada. Two of which CEO gave them their first ever college coaching jobs.
What happens when he makes a bad hire?
Posted on 8/18/17 at 5:16 pm to SportTiger1
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Do you despise the fact that O lost to a 14 pt underdog at home while they had 4 starters out with injuries?
Nope, disappointed with the loss when LSU gained 423 yards to 270 - which would have been 172 if not for a busted coverage on a pass play by UF. All that with a TE's coach running the offense.
I don't despise the fact that CEO hired an OC that beat the national champion - Clemson and a guy who just got a contract extension for going to the Rose Bowl. Do you? Seems like it.
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Do you despise the fact that an O coached team scored the same amount of points against Bama as did Les Miles in what was widely considered the worse game in LSU history?
Considering the fact that CEO had Les' leftover staff and a TE's coach running the offense, NO !!! Especially when as soon as recruiting was over he made huge changes to correct the situation. Did you notice LSU has a different OC than the one than the one who coached in the Bama game last year?
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Do you despise that O hired an OC that ranked 98th in the nation in points for 2013, lower than any Les Miles team in his coaching history?
Nope, I am glad CEO hired the only offensive Broyles Award candidate from LAST SEASON. I'm glad he hired the only OC to beat Clemson. I'm glad he hired the OC who beat Penn St who won the Big 10 and went to the Rose Bowl. If you're miserable about it, that's okay. I think it's funny.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 5:26 pm to wildtigercat93
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I can tell you about a lot of coaches who took over as interim had success and then fell flat on their face.
Do it. Your post won't be in vain. I have time and will read it. Tell me some of these coaches who took over unranked teams and by the end of the season had winning records, national rankings and the teams in bowl games.
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It's a pretty rare scenario for a big time program to fire their coach mid season. Do you really think it's not harder to run a program long term than it is to run a program for a few weeks or months?
Harder? Being more successful than the guy who was just fired is easy? Maybe it looks easy for a high-stepper like CEO but I don't think it is.
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