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re: Mark May re HB7 goalline situation: "rules are rules"

Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:46 pm to
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If you watch the replay Mathieu knew he threw it early. As he got into the endzone he looked back like "oh shite, I hope they don't catch that".



Sort of like the Arky defender who shoved JJ in the back on that TD fumble return and immediately threw his hands up and looked at the official.

Missed calls = part of the game.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:48 pm to
It went out of bounds behind the goal line - it would have been first down Georgia on the twenty - right?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:48 pm to
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It went through the goalline. I believe it would have been a touchback.


Some referee said after the game it would have been ruled an illegal forward pass and not a fumble, so LSU ball on the 5 1/2 yard line
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88991 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:48 pm to
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Perhaps all true, however I can't imagine the reaction had the uniforms been reversed.


Well, fortunately, you don't have to.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49516 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:49 pm to
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Perhaps all true, however I can't imagine the reaction had the uniforms been reversed.

I disagree - I cannot imagine anyone being really upset with what happened regardless of who was involved.

At total fluke having absolutely nothing to do with the play of the game. Nobody can say they were deprived of something they should have gotten.

Of course there are borderline penalties all the time, and as long as the refs are consistent then nobody should have heartburn about it.

The penalty against Wing earlier is another example. What he did had nothing to do with the play of the game. It was 'against the rules' and got flagged for it. There was no huge outcry.

Just as if he had NOT been flagged there should have been no outcry either.

Now when a blatant foul occurs that affects the play of the game and is not called resulting in a TD for the "other" team ==> that is a reason for sour grapes.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:50 pm to
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Well, fortunately, you don't have to.


Ain't that the truth. I don't think I could have stomached it.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49516 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:52 pm to
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It went out of bounds behind the goal line - it would have been first down Georgia on the twenty - right?

This is what I think the ruling would have been.

Touchback.

Saw it happen in a pro game once. Player started pumping the ball on about the 10 yd line. Lost control at about the 5. Ball bounced into the end zone and out the back. Other team got the ball on the 20/
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:54 pm to
So LSU wins 35-10 instead of 42-10. I can live with that score.
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:55 pm to
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It went out of bounds behind the goal line - it would have been first down Georgia on the twenty - right?

Yes, I don't see how the ref didn't catch it. He was looking right at him.
Posted by MasonTiger
Mason, Ohio
Member since Jan 2005
18800 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:55 pm to
I unofficially return the points.

Tigers win 35-10! Kicked the shite out of them!
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:55 pm to
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total fluke


It wasn't a fluke. It was showboating gone wrong. A fluke is the OK QB dropping the ball last night on his backswing.

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It was 'against the rules' and got flagged for it. There was no huge outcry.


lolwut

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88991 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:55 pm to
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This is what I think the ruling would have been. Touchback. Saw it happen in a pro game once. Player started pumping the ball on about the 10 yd line. Lost control at about the 5. Ball bounced into the end zone and out the back. Other team got the ball on the 20/



I once saw Jerry Rice spike the ball at the one-yard line before crossing the goalline against the Saints. Touchdown, wasn't even reviewed.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:56 pm to
Wouldn't it have been an illegal forward pass first, therefore overriding the touch back call?
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:57 pm to
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Wouldn't it have been an illegal forward pass first, therefore overriding the touch back call?


I don't know...doesn't a forward pass have to have an intended receiver?
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11376 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:57 pm to
Forget rules... what about the "eye ball test".. Maybe that's just for Bama
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49516 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:58 pm to
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doesn't a forward pass have to have an intended receiver?

Sooooooooo - they should have called intentional grounding?????
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:58 pm to
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It was an idiotic decision by mathieu


Mathieu lost his head when the official threw his touchdown signal before he even crossed the goal line.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88991 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:59 pm to
Since we won anyway, I say we just declare it karma or payback or whatever for the bullshite celebration call on Wing's "touchdown" earlier this year.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28247 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:59 pm to
Yes it was an illegal forward pass. Otherwise how does the ball go through the endzone in the air?
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:00 pm to
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Sooooooooo - they should have called intentional grounding?????


Yessssss.
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