re: Magnum Rolle Stands Out At Pacers' Camp

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the traitorous Johnson

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that's what Mrs. Damon Evans said

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I remember when he had those games off bench and had 10 12 pts and like 5 or 6 rebounds, and it would make such a huge diff for us

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I remember them too, but there weren't many of those and I contend he got his chances. They thought he'd blossom like Tyrus and counted on that. He did not.

Look Tech was the right place for Rolle. He thought he was better than he was IMHO so he gets to go somewhere where he actually was the best player on the team and get all that comes with that and it helped him develop.

Had he stayed he'd have had to defer to Randolph, Taz and Thornton and he'd have still been grumbling.

Again, when he griped about us recruiting Arthur that's all I needed to know about him. I was done with him. That's just me though.

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Yeh he only had a few of those games, I still blame it on brady, johnson would have let him know it was ok to shoot he ball... Brady problly reamed him everytime he took a shot confidence is a big factor

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So with Big Baby Davis, Tasmin Mitchell and Terry Martin Brady should have designed his offense to let Magnum Rolle hopefully develop his perimeter game for his NBA career. Instead that dumb ole brady tried to get him to emulate Tyrus Thomas.

Gosh, if Bradyhad not been Tyrus' coach he might have been the first pick in the draft instead of the fourth. I can see why Magnum believed his talents wre being squandered.

they are talking about him being one of the steals of the draft and call him a future all star

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T johnsom would have gave rolle the green light to shoot good shots all day, dont be an basketball idiot, do you really think we only need three people scoring to win? Dont forget rolle scored 12 against duke with 8 or so in a huge first half spurt and totally helped us win that game

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How many of those points against Duke were outside of the paint? Johnson would not have allowed him sto shoot from any further than Brady? I am not claiming you only need three scorers, but those thre would have been options ahead of Rolle, especially Taz and Martin on the perimeter, then Thornton the next two years. Bottom line is Rolle was asked to play within his capabilities and within the makeup of his team. He elected to leave. It may have worked out for him in the long run, but coached don't have the luxury of hoping a project works out when playing a major conference schedule.
Apparently that is not the case in a mid major league.

Rolle showed the ability to hit jumper similiar to c johnson, with additional hops and length... In his best games at lsu, he would get a couple hustle buckets and make a couple of ten or twelve footers in the lane, and he used to take from top of the paint ala k garnet, hence the comparison in the article... Plus about 6 rebs...

Apparently at la tech he stretched that range a few feet and made shots more consistently.... Combine that with length and athletism to get shots of in the paint...

Confidence makes a diff, having a good coach also makes a diff, not being in john brady's doghouse for being unable to fulfill tyrus's role which was a square peg in a round hole at the time makes a diff..

Fact is apparently he has gotten a lot better and he was drafted... We didnt have a single lsu player drafted this year and rolle would have started and been a big contributor on an lsu squad the past few years...
There is a reason brady settled for ark st.... Noone else wanted him dummy!

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Brady didn't "run off" Rolle. Assistant coach Nikita Johnson filled Rolle's head with the belief that he was the next Kevin Durant and was being played out of position.

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So this happened as Rolle was a soph and Durant was an incoming freshman. Sounds real.

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We didnt have a single lsu player drafted this year and rolle would have started and been a big contributor on an lsu squad the past few years...

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Rolle of course would have finished in 2009 had he stayed at LSU and would he have started ahead of Chris Johnson then?

Probably, but I actually think Trent misused CJ much of the year trying to make him a back to the basket post guy until the mid part of the SEC season before admitting his mistake and even then often leaving him twisting in the wind guarding post guys one-on-one...definitely not a strenght of CJ. And I'm a Trent fan, but he did a square peg, round hole with CJ, so who is to say he didn't with Magnum.


And in 2008 CJ actually played quite well when he was healthy, better than he did in 2009 actually and Randolph was there then as well so would Magnum have been pouting?

Hey, I agree the move to Tech was the best move for him I just don't think he's absolved from all responsibility for his attitude and softness here just because Brady was an a-hole.

I'm ambivalent to how he does. Will he pout if the Pacers pic up a guy that plays his position in free agency? Probably.

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John Brady

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he played decent his first year at LSU then faded after that.

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... In his best games at lsu, he would get a couple hustle buckets and make a couple of ten or twelve footers in the lane, and he used to take from top of the paint ala k garnet, hence the comparison in the article

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You agree with me that Rolle's points were almost exclusively from in the paint. If he had shown teh ability to make perimeter jum shots Brady would have allowed him to shoot them. Why would he allow Chris Johsnon that freedom and not Rolle if the shots were going in?

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Apparently at la tech he stretched that range a few feet and made shots more consistently....

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Yeah, he had a couple of years to grow stronger and work on conssitency from a little longer. H estill did not shoot or make three pointers.

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tyrus's role which was a square peg in a round hole at the time makes a diff

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I am not sure he was in Brady's doghouse. He got hsi chance to play, but Brady palyed him at the position of need whcih suited his ability and level of development. Rolle did have a herniated disc which hampered his development.

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Fact is apparently he has gotten a lot better and he was drafted... We didnt have a single lsu player drafted this year and rolle would have started and been a big contributor on an lsu squad the past few years...
There is a reason brady settled for ark st.... Noone else wanted him dummy

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We still would have zero draftees this year as Rolle's eligibility would have ended in 2009. We may have beaten North Carolina if he had continued to develop his low post game. So his selfishness relegated him to a mid major conference and cost him a chance at a second Final Four.