re: LSU's QB Jordan Jefferson's Stats compared to other(UPDATED)

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jefferson isn't far from the other top players his age

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Yes he is. He's the worst one of the bunch and he has arguably the best supporting cast.

More importantly, he is KILLING his team. Believe me, I want JJ to be better than he has. I wanted him to build off the bowl win and continue on an arc of improving. But he hasn't. He has regressed. He's got all of the physical attributes but there is something wrong mentally. If I knew what it was, I would point it out. But I don't. Clearly the coaching staff doesn't. And as a result, a collection of absolutely sick offensive skill players are being completely wasted.

JJ just doesn't have it mentally right now. The kid is a great prospect and has shown some amazing flashes, but when push comes to shove, he's been inconsistent at best. He's been playing scared all season, and I have no doubt that part of that is the coaching and seeing what Lee went through last season.

Do you think that kid saw Lee getting booed and crucified for his mistakes and was like "I don't care, won't happen to me?". As soon as the criticism started for JJ, especially earlier in this season, he's been playing scared. You could see it in the UGA after the INT. He freaked everytime we got in the redzone, because he didn't want to take a chance and make a mistake.

The next game he played obviously scared the whole time. He looked like everything was too fast for him all of a sudden.

The fact is that the coaches and fans have screwed both Lee and JJ so far. They've refused to give these kids a chance to develop from their mistakes. Instead, they've simply criticized them to no end. I have no problem criticizing a player when they've shown to not give a shite when they are out there (see Ciron Black), but to go after a guy with the weight on his shoulders and trying to find his way is ridiculous.

He will only get better with support and an opportunity to see the game slow down for him. This may take him sitting on the bench a bit and watching others run the offense like Lee, but that's not for sure necessary.

Let's go JJ and Lee, and take LSU to the promised land. This Tiger Fan is with you BOTH and the team.

The first two have way more sacks..coincidence?..i think not

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The first two have way more sacks..coincidence?..i think not

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sec417r39

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i don't follow, say what you mean, man? Forcier is a much better runner than Harris so that can't be it

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I have not seen anything that remotely shows that the team and coaches have lost faith in JJ

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I havent seen this either, but last year we did.

JJ has looked like a young QB and his stats are comparable to other young QBs. He has great skill players around him but a terrible OL. And it's really up to the coaches to figure out ways to get the ball to the playmakers and to develop JJ, and therein lies the problem. The young QB is just that, a young QB.

And FWIW, I think JL could develop as well. Again, this would take good coaching.

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Why don't we see what happens in the Auburn game before we decide that he just doesn't have it right now.

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some people will call him a failure now so that if he has a bad game against auburn they can say "i told you so".

At times he did look scared in that game, especially when the OL struggled and he was getting blitzed.

Much like in the UF game, when we put our offense to a spread out quick read passing game, he had success moving the ball, albeit in short passes. That takes a lot of the pressure off of him, and once we saw how effective it was in the UGA game, I was SHOCKED that it wasn't a major part of our gameplan against UF.

That being said, my point wasn't to knock JJ and say he needs to be benched. Like Randall, maybe being benched would help him see the game a little differently, but if you don't think he played scared against UGA AFTER his INT in the endzone, you didn't watch the game closely.

In the end, our offense did well against UGA in getting yards because we ran the ball. Crowton got too focused on pressing the pass in the second half that we had 2 or 3 drives in a row where the total # of run plays was 1 and the total number of sacks was 5. If that changes, JJ will be fine, but right now with the playcalling, he's set up to struggle a lot.

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hopefully they're wrong

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they wont admitt it. they will just say "well, when we play alabama we will lose. just being realistic".

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all freshman

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which is why i said "young" stars