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re: LSU's QB Jordan Jefferson's Stats compared to other(UPDATED)
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:02 pm to Mike Linebacker
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:02 pm to Mike Linebacker
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But what is most important is that the defensive coordinators of other schools don't fear him...at all. They have taken away the LSU running game completely and dared Crowton to use Jefferson.
And the result has been 1 loss where we looked helpless on offense, 1 comfortable win and 4 wins against inferior opponents that were closer than they had to be.
I got to give that a big AMEN!
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Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:03 pm to Sammobile
LSU- 107
Miami (FL)- 95
USC- 43
Michigan- 49
Oklahoma- 34
Missouri- 34
Thats where those teams rank in Sacks Per Game. The only other team that is even close is Miami at 95.
Miami (FL)- 95
USC- 43
Michigan- 49
Oklahoma- 34
Missouri- 34
Thats where those teams rank in Sacks Per Game. The only other team that is even close is Miami at 95.
This post was edited on 10/22/09 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:07 pm to DoubleDeuce
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Oh I'm going to play the if game.
well you shouldn't. if you are going to base an argument on "what if's" then you are beyond help.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:08 pm to LST
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Thats where those teams rank in Sacks Per Game. The only other team that is even close is Miami at 95.
what are the actual number of sacks. 95 vs 107 might mean 1 sack. not a big difference.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:09 pm to noonan
Right now, JJ is terrible. I think he can get better though. I just hope the coaches put him in a better position to succeed and please let RS see the field.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:12 pm to noonan
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what are the actual number of sacks. 95 vs 107 might mean 1 sack. not a big difference.
LSU- 18
Miami- 16
Michigan- 11 (only 8 for Forcier, the rest were by the backups)
everyone else is less than that.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:13 pm to tigerclaws15
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Right now, JJ is terrible
Point of this Thread
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:14 pm to LST
For the record. Rushing TDs.
Forcier- 2 TDs
Harris-1 TD
Jefferson- 0 TDs
Forcier- 2 TDs
Harris-1 TD
Jefferson- 0 TDs
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:14 pm to Sammobile
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Point of this Thread
You say that it is the point of the thread, then you stick up for him the whole time like he is awesome.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:14 pm to LST
#34 missouri has 8 for 1.33 per game
we have 3 per game.
it sucks. but 107 vs 34 makes it sound worse than it really is.
we have 3 per game.
it sucks. but 107 vs 34 makes it sound worse than it really is.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:17 pm to LST
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You say that it is the point of the thread, then you stick up for him the whole time like he is awesome.
he said Jefferson has been terrible, which he hasn't(which is the POINT OF THIS THREAD)Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:17 pm to noonan
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it sucks. but 107 vs 34 makes it sound worse than it really is.
:kige:
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:18 pm to Sammobile
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Sammobile
You replied to "Jefferson is Terrible" with "Point of this thread", now tell me it doesnt sound like you are saying "The point of this thread is that Jefferson has been terribe".
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:21 pm to LST
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You replied to "Jefferson is Terrible" with "Point of this thread", now tell me it doesnt sound like you are saying "The point of this thread is that Jefferson has been terribe".
if that was the only post you read not if you have been following the whole thread, which is that jefferson isn't far from the other top players his age
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:50 pm to Sammobile
Yards per completion isn't the metric used to judge a QB accurately. Yards per attempt is a much better metric and actually the metric you are using here and mislabeling as YPC.
One thing you should be disturbed by is that the only one with even HALF the sacks of Jefferson on your list is Harris. If you notice, most of those sacks came in a loss to Va Tech too.
No, Landry has thrown for more yards and been sacked less than 30% as much as JJ with more attempts. Furthermore, his line is much more retooled than LSU's and is a weakspot on that team. Even worse is that LSU's WRs are head and shoulders above OU's. Even worse? Landry is a Redshirt freshman and had NO experience coming into this season.
One thing you should be disturbed by is that the only one with even HALF the sacks of Jefferson on your list is Harris. If you notice, most of those sacks came in a loss to Va Tech too.
No, Landry has thrown for more yards and been sacked less than 30% as much as JJ with more attempts. Furthermore, his line is much more retooled than LSU's and is a weakspot on that team. Even worse is that LSU's WRs are head and shoulders above OU's. Even worse? Landry is a Redshirt freshman and had NO experience coming into this season.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 1:00 pm to GeauxBob
You cant tell me that you think he has been good or shite even average. We have played subpar competition except for Florida and he has as much talent in the receiving corps as any team in the country. The guy has not played good no matter how you try to make the stats work for you. Is there anyone on the bench that can play better is the bigger question?
Posted on 10/22/09 at 1:03 pm to tigerclaws15
Oh, by the way, I will support JJ as long as he is the QB for LSU
Posted on 10/22/09 at 1:20 pm to LST
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I would like to see Jefferson's Yards Per Completion without the YAC that Tolliver and Lafell rack up.
So QB's passing yardage should be less all YAC? And should only include yards to the point where the receiver catches the ball. Not a step farther? Has that stat ever been kept in the history of football? Is that a stat we should create specifically for JJ? Did we keep that stat for Lee? If so what was his numbers?
Is that something like the stat that was created for JR. The one that counted the number of times his receiver had to adjust to catch his passes. As if no other QB's receivers had to adjust to catch passes.
Could it be those are things you notice and highlight when your agenda is to find fault in the QB? All QB's yardage includes receivers' YAC. A big percentage of Hall of famer Joe Montanna's included YAC with Rice and Taylor. The West Coast Offense is predicated on YAC. And guess what all QB's throw passes during a game where their receivers have to adjust to make catches.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 1:22 pm to DoubleDeuce
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Now where does he rank? If you take JJ's sacks and add them to his Attempts he would have 163 Attempts and his Comp% would be near what Lee's was at 55.8
JJ New Stat Alert! Sacks added to pass attempts to get passing percentage. Never done before in the history of football!!!! Lets change the rules because of JJ.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 1:23 pm to justustm2
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justustm2
best 459th and 460th posts i have seen in a long time.
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