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re: LSUAD is videotaping students chanting obscenities.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:12 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:12 am to LNCHBOX
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Is that why you end up in any thread about this?
There's a thread about this topic you see....said topic is being discussed...am I not allowed to make a comment about it?
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Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:13 am to RedTigerRulz
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There's a thread about this topic you see....said topic is being discussed...am I not allowed to make a comment about it?
I'm feeling like you missed the point. Absolutely shocking.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:13 am to ballscaster
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The athletic programs and events are there specifically for the students.
You think that the product of college athletics is intended to be primarily consumed by students?
Welcome to the real world pal.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:14 am to RealityTiger
quote:Offensiveness level:
if one cannot determine the level of offensiveness that varies between "suck that Tiger dick" and "kick their arse",
"Kick their arse!" - 0
"STTDB" - 0
Policing others' language - 8
quote:This is correct in that we know why you are arguing what you're arguing, and we are aware that there is a level of offense that you have created and chosen to take and use as a foundation for the moral high ground upon which you and those agree with you stand and attempt vainly to justify the most offensive act of all in this argument--language policing.
I think most people get it and know the difference
quote:Other way around. In my argument, there's just nothing to justify. It is inevitable--and therefore, not justifiable of unjustifiable, since inevitability transcends both--that people will say whatever they want, whenever they want, and if 10,000 people collectively agree that they will say something, it will be said, and there is nothing you will ever be able to do about it, ever.
just grabbing for excuses to justify it.
We have a bunch of people who are not affiliated with LSU who are going to university events and, as if they are students' superiors (rather than the students' guests, which is what they actually are), instructing those students on how they are to behave and speak, and their bully tactics, which will never be completely successful, have had at least enough influence to make it so that there is a realistic possibility that there will be money spent on surveillance cameras specifically to spot speech "offenders" at football games and to remove them from Tiger Stadium.
That is incredibly offensive, and vile, evil, disrespectful, and pathetic, and it is you people who are inventing excuses to justify it.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:15 am to More beer please
quote:Undeniable and true not only for kids, but with just about anyone.
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They really should just drop the whole campaign to clean it up. It just makes students want to curse more
Yup just like with any kids. You emphasize not doing something, and it makes them want to do it more.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:15 am to LNCHBOX
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Do you really think people are going to come to a school that takes away student tickets because of some cursing? You're delusional if you think it wouldn't have an effect.
There would be zero impact. ZERO.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:17 am to moneyg
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There would be zero impact. ZERO.
I would beg to differ. Like it or not, there is a sizeable group of people that based their decision to go to LSU heavily on football. Or do you also disagree with that?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:17 am to RedTigerRulz
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My question to you then would be..Do you like Neck or not?
I've been waiting a while for somebody to actually ask that. I fricking hate that shitty song, and I wish that the band would stop playing it.
quote:I love this act as well.
I do like the fact that the band said fk it and played it at the end of the Arky game anyway.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:17 am to lsuhunt555
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not even an offensive thing, its the fact that these people cant understand what is socially acceptable. Screaming STTDB on national TV amongst a stadium full of people just isn't the way people need to behave. Plain and simple. And frankly, if they continue to behave that way, I dont feel bad for the ramifications of what they do.
This is a very good way of putting it. I'm not trying to personally step in ballscaster's right to yell what he wants, but there are societal norms and yelling at people to fellate a Bengal Tiger just isn't something that most people will tolerate.
And it's been said a million times, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. The school has dug in and taken a stand (regardless of the right or wrong argument) and students will not win this one.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 11:21 am
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:19 am to lsuhunt555
quote:More namecalling from language police.
If you believe this, youre as stupid as you sound.
Every college athletic program at every college ever was established specifically so that students could play and enjoy sports in college. The fact that along the way many of those programs found ways to make a lot of money with their events does not change the reason they're there in the first place.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:19 am to LNCHBOX
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I'm feeling like you missed the point.
Ignore your feelings...they're misguided a lot!
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:19 am to LNCHBOX
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would beg to differ. Like it or not, there is a sizeable group of people that based their decision to go to LSU heavily on football. Or do you also disagree with that?
This is an issue that simply cannot be quantified, but in my opinion there would be little impact on enrollment.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:20 am to ballscaster
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The fact that along the way many of those programs found ways to make a lot of money with their events does not change the reason they're there in the first place.
So I take it you dont believe in the theory of evolution either.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:20 am to ballscaster
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Every college athletic program at every college ever was established specifically so that students could play and enjoy sports in college
Take away the non-students...there is no sports program to enjoy.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:21 am to LNCHBOX
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I would beg to differ.
You go ahead and do that.
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Like it or not, there is a sizeable group of people that based their decision to go to LSU heavily on football. Or do you also disagree with that?
Nobody is talking about taking away all of the tickets. You realize that, don't you?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:22 am to Slippy
Welp fun's over. If you get caught, get kicked out and lose your privledges. Pretty simple and should be enforced. I mean, I had a rowdy time doing it as a student but University is tired of it. Shits getting old.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:22 am to ballscaster
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Every college athletic program at every college ever was established specifically so that students could play and enjoy sports in college. The fact that along the way many of those programs found ways to make a lot of money with their events does not change the reason they're there in the first place.
Now you're just being naive to go along with your narrative. College football has long been a corporate event and is driven by corporate dollars in suites, tickets and advertising. It's not about the students despite whatever front the universities want to put up.
I'm talking about Major Division 1 football. Sure, Division III football at Milsaps and Rhodes and the like might still be about the students.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 11:24 am
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:23 am to LNCHBOX
quote:I do disagree with your point here. The argument that some students enroll because of football is different from the argument that some enroll because of student section chants. I can't see enrollment numbers affected by enforcing student section chant rules.
Like it or not, there is a sizeable group of people that based their decision to go to LSU heavily on football.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:23 am to ballscaster
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More namecalling from language police.
Administration will either police the situation or do away with it, either way people like me win.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:24 am to ballscaster
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Every college athletic program at every college ever was established specifically so that students could play and enjoy sports in college. The fact that along the way many of those programs found ways to make a lot of money with their events does not change the reason they're there in the first place.
That is totally irrelevant. In fact, the reality that the game is consumed by the general population and that money and reputation is now tied directly to the events goes directly to why LSU has an interest and frankly an obligation to protect its image.
Your arguments in this thread are extremely weak. I'm sure there are people who agree with your conclusion who just wish you'd stop posting because you are making poor argument after poor argument.
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