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LSU will retire Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf's jersey during halftime of A&M game

Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:39 pm
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@LSUBasketball
LSU will retire Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf's jersey next Saturday, February 29, during halftime of the Texas A&M game. LINK
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 2:40 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:40 pm to
I’ll wait for Ree’s post on this. Thanks.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:47 pm to
Is he going to stand or sit for the national anthem?
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12234 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:49 pm to
If he sits will that make him NOT a great LSU athlete, worthy of recognition?
Put differently, to be recognized for his contributions to LSU basketball, do his politics have to be acceptable to you?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:01 pm to
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I’ll wait for Ree’s post on this. Thanks.




Very smart move on your part.

I approve this message and the OP reporting it.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:09 pm to
Very good sir! Message received OP
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3618 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

If he sits will that make him NOT a great LSU athlete, worthy of recognition? Put differently, to be recognized for his contributions to LSU basketball, do his politics have to be acceptable to you?


It's a valid question. If someone disrespects the flag I'm not sure he should be recognized.

Put differently, is how a former athlete conducts his life irrelevant to determining whether he should receive a university honor?
Posted by floyd13
New Orleans Uptown
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:36 pm to
What
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
3982 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:41 pm to
What name is going to be on the jersey they retire? Jackson? or Abdul-Rauf? Just curious. Anybody know what the jersey hanging at UCLA says? Alcindor? or Abdul-Jabbar?

ETA: Just saw the conversation in the other thread. I'm not advocating either way- I'm just curious.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:49 pm to
Boys momma named him Jackson, I’m gonna call him Jackson
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12380 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:51 pm to
Not irrelevant but in this case it shouldn't matter. Whether most of us agree or not, the first amendment guarantees his right to not stand.
He does it on religious grounds and there is such thing as freedom of religion. If we choose not to honor his achievements here(2nd best player we've ever had based on college) because of his religious beliefs does that not open a can of worms we don't want?
Example, say our leaders are Baptist does that entitle them to not honor a Catholic because they don't believe in the same fundamentals religiously? How about Jews? It would set a horrible precedent. As far as I know Abdul-Rauf isn't a terrorist or criminal so why should his belief system matter?
If you go the political route, would a Republican leader be ok not honoring a known Democrat or vice versa?
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7796 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:55 pm to
People fought and died so we’d have these rights. I’ll be there and don’t care either way.
Posted by DenverTigerMan
Denver
Member since Nov 2005
2273 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

Boys momma named him Jackson, I’m gonna call him Jackson


This above.

Mahmoud Abdul Rauf never played at LSU, Chris Jackson did.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37321 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:04 pm to
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Mahmoud Abdul Rauf never played at LSU, Chris Jackson did.


This is where I am.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:08 pm to
yeah, but none of y'all are his Momma, so, you don't have the right to call him Chris Jackson. You call him by the name he goes by which he has used for some time now. Listen, just because you don't like someone's religion is no reason to disrespect them like that. But I think they retire the jersey name that he used while at LSU when he played which was C Jackson.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 4:10 pm
Posted by cfotiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
771 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:16 pm to
Wait, what? His not standing for the national anthem of our country was a religious issue?

If so, then yeah, I don't like his religion.

Show some respect for the flag of the country you live in and that has allowed you to make MILLIONS playing a game.

Regardless, his basketball play at LSU deserves recognition.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136799 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:17 pm to
Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, a swift and streaky Denver Nuggets guard, was in his sixth and steadiest season in 1996 when fans and news media members realized that, during the pregame national anthem, he would either stay in the locker room or stretch on the sideline.

Asked to explain, Abdul-Rauf called the American flag a “symbol of oppression, of tyranny.”

“I’m a Muslim first and a Muslim last,” said Abdul-Rauf, who entered the league as Chris Jackson but changed his name after converting to Islam in 1991. “My duty is to my creator, not to nationalistic ideology.”
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:18 pm to
Chris Jackson


He’ll always be Chris Jackson.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12234 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 6:07 pm to
What is it specifically about “how he conducts his life” you find objectionable?
Until recently, one could hold their own religious beliefs without adverse consequences in this country.
Anti- Muslim bigotry has become fashionable nowadays in some corners.
Should we retire jerseys only for good Christian, Republican, white basketball players?
There will not be many....
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136799 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 6:44 pm to
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nitwit


Read my post

Dude was/is clearly anti-American
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