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re: LSU: weak in the QB stable
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:23 pm to filmmaker45
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:23 pm to filmmaker45
Whole thread makes me want to 
Please September...hurry up and get here.
Please September...hurry up and get here.
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Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:26 pm to lsutigerB
5 pages really?
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:27 pm to therick711
you missed some of them in your mere list, for which you get C for making it, but an F in your attempt to make a valid counterpoint.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:27 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
5 pages in response to a "moron".
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:29 pm to TigerJeff
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You've seen these players practice?
IN defense of the OP, we heard this garbage for 3 straight and disgusting years about JJ. Whatever they supposedly saw in practice makes them lose credibility for assessing QB performance. It is a flaw of Miles.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:44 pm to The Eric
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qbs since 2000 who have done well at LSU
Davey
MaUck
Russell
Flynn
Perrilloux( did well when given the chanc and would have been great e)
Lee (not the greatest but did pilot an awesome offense te first half of the season before being dumped on)
One of the issues has been lack of longevity/turnover at the position, not necessarily that the QB's weren't capable. You had the Booty/Rohan divisiveness, Mauck started and then got hurt @ UF after starting to show some upside and was replaced by M. Randall the rest of the season, then Mauck came back as a starter and moved on and Randall was the starter who never should have been relied upon as a starting SEC QB, yet Saban kept putting him out there with Russell on the roster. Russell really only started two years, Flynn started one year and LSU was lucky he played well prior to the ankle/shoulder injuries, and RP was never an opening day/season starter. Then you had Hatch/Lee, then Jefferson. The Lee/Jefferson duo wore on everyone at least a year too long, now going with an untested Mett who might end up being the most skilled as a passer since who knows? I could see someone viewing the QB turnover since 2000 as an issue. Programs that have high quality starters on the field for 3-years have a huge asset rarely seen these days. It's really a tribute to the collective teams they have performed as well as they have in many seasons starting so many QB's. It's also surprising the play at the position couldn't be upgraded during the 4-years leading to 2012.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:44 pm to SouthernB
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I'm not sure that's a realistic view of the QB corps. There's some pretty danged good talent on the roster and until they're able to get in there and show what they can do, you're being totally speculative. No one thought that AJ McCarron would be as productive this past year for Bama, as he was, myself included. I guess my point is this: Give them the benefit of the doubt through spring practice, fall camp, and the first 2-3 games of the '12 season before making the assumption you made here. IMHO of course :)
You are actually supporting my point: that the QB corps, unlike the RBs, WRs, Linemen, etc., is far too speculative than it should reasonably be expected to be given the type of program LSU is supposed to have and the amount of $ paid to a coach of such program. This is a valid point that is striking at the emotions of the forum regulars, blinding their reasoning. Btw, I'm not overly impressed with McCarron, but I am 'Bama's defense!
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:48 pm to tiger88
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is far too speculative than it should reasonably be expected to be given the type of program LSU is supposed to have and the amount of $ paid to a coach of such program
so what programs are different? Every QB is a project when he comes to college
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:49 pm to TigerBait1127
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so what programs are different? Every QB is a project when he comes to college
Then why bother recruiting them or talent that might project to become an effective one?
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:52 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
i can tell by the 5th page on this thread that the OP was an idiot. Thank God I.....
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:54 pm to tiger88
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Then why bother recruiting them or talent that might project to become an effective one?
I have no idea what you are trying to say here. You are recruiting potential, nothing is certain and every qb needs to be developed.
What elite programs know that they have a good qb waiting?
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:54 pm to TigerBait1127
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What elite programs know that they have a good qb waiting?
You answered your own question in your question.
By the way, I think you are Tiger bait.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:56 pm to tiger88
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You answered your own question in your question.
how so? Try responding to what I post instead of just making a retarded and vague statement.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:57 pm to TigerBait1127
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:58 pm to tiger88
Posted on 1/31/12 at 2:22 pm to tiger88
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tiger88
Have you not figured out by now that football recruiting in an educated guessing game at every position? Hence, the phrase "recruiting is an inexact science."
Coaches recruit based on film and, often, in person evaluations. A 1* can become a superstar and a 5* can be a total bust. If you're waiting Miles and Co. to have multiple 5* in the wings, you'll be waiting a long time.
To address your original post, it's impossible to know what LSU has "in the stable" because, again, we have not seen them play. Your assumptions are merely that, assumptions, and they make you look extremely foolish and ignorant.
Have a great day.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 2:26 pm to tiger88
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LSU: weak in the QB stable
One bit of advice...LOOK at the roster before you post dumb, stupid, junk!
quote:
Why is LSU constantly plagued at the most critical position? And I'm talking since Tommy Hodson days.
Have you even watched a game in the last 25 or so years since Hodson left?...idiot!
Posted on 1/31/12 at 2:30 pm to gallagherkck
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Have you not figured out by now that football recruiting in an educated guessing game at every position? Hence, the phrase "recruiting is an inexact science."
Coaches recruit based on film and, often, in person evaluations. A 1* can become a superstar and a 5* can be a total bust. If you're waiting Miles and Co. to have multiple 5* in the wings, you'll be waiting a long time.
To address your original post, it's impossible to know what LSU has "in the stable" because, again, we have not seen them play. Your assumptions are merely that, assumptions, and they look extremely foolish and ignorant.
Have a great day.
really, no way...I mean, uh...sigh...Well, hossenpepper, why didn't anyone tell me this?
So, what you are saying is those other teams, should they have great QBs it's not because of any efforts spent in the game of "educated guessing," "film," "...evaluations", and the like, but instead is just blind luck? And that no effort need be applied to such an "inexact science," because it's just all up to chance, regardless of the money and resources put into same?
Wow, phew! Good thing you set me straight, or else I would've been really, really embarrassed.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 2:35 pm to tiger88
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So, what you are saying is those other teams, should they have great QBs it's not because of any efforts spent in the game of "educated guessing," "film," "...evaluations", and the like, but instead is just blind luck? And that no effort need be applied to such an "inexact science," because it's just all up to chance, regardless of the money and resources put into same?
so what other teams never have issues at QB?
Posted on 1/31/12 at 2:35 pm to Gus Tinsley
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Have you even watched a game in the last 25 or so years since Hodson left?...idiot!
I have rarely, if ever, missed an LSU SEC football contest in over 25 years.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 2:36 pm
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