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re: LSU was snake-bitten last year.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 4:04 pm to King Joey
Posted on 6/30/10 at 4:04 pm to King Joey
quote:Why are you not channeling Nuts4LSU today? Off your meds again?
Classic "objectivity" and "realism" from the crowd that lives to trash LSU.
This post was edited on 6/30/10 at 4:05 pm
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Posted on 6/30/10 at 4:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
And it isn't like those 'bad breaks' were totally against the momentum of the game. Against Ole Miss, Florida and PSU, I never felt like we were in control of the game. The entire game pretty much seemed like a losing battle with rays of hope in there.
The only 'what if' game in my mind was Bama. We led most of the game and if JJ and Scott had not been injured, and PP hadn't taken off a play due to cramps, the outcome could have been different.
The only 'what if' game in my mind was Bama. We led most of the game and if JJ and Scott had not been injured, and PP hadn't taken off a play due to cramps, the outcome could have been different.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 4:10 pm to Choctaw
quote:
Did he neglect to properly coach the players? You don't know The players do not look like they know what they are doing on the field, who's fault is that?
Did he hire poor assistants and not punish them? Which poor assistants did he not punish. He didn't fire Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb when he should of. He kept that lard arse as defensive line coach, Earl Lane for too long. He kept that douchebag Studrawa who is still there. He refuses to censure or get under control Gary frickin' Crowton who is a clusterfrick at everything and a mastermind at nothing.
Did he act like a leader? Yes HELL NO
Did he prepare for games? Yes...and to think otherwise is just dumb. He's been coaching a very long time. He may have prepared, but he prepared POORLY.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 4:28 pm to siliconvalleytiger
For the life of me, I'll never understand how people consider making a goal line stand lucky. What happened that was outside of LSU or MSU's control? It was not the Fates, it was players making plays. And any mention of lucky plays in the MSU game that was controlled by the players has to include a botched snap on a 19 yard field goal (but I'm sure their goal line stand was just luck, too).
Arkansas bitches about that spot, but I just don't see it. It all happened in a fraction of a second - it was so close, especially to the naked eye. and considering they were given a touchdown on a helmet-to-helmet hit by Chad Jones that was perfectly legal, it all came out in the wash. They can have that call, we can have the Chad Jones call... and we still win.
People hate to admit it because we like to see sports as a battle of virtues, but most close games come down to luck. LSU lost a lot of close games. That's bad luck. they won some close games. That's good luck. I do think, on balance, we were more unlucky than lucky last season, especially concerning injuries, but we were more lucky than unlucky in 2007, so it all balances out.
The key is being so good that you win by 20. Which is unlikely.
Arkansas bitches about that spot, but I just don't see it. It all happened in a fraction of a second - it was so close, especially to the naked eye. and considering they were given a touchdown on a helmet-to-helmet hit by Chad Jones that was perfectly legal, it all came out in the wash. They can have that call, we can have the Chad Jones call... and we still win.
People hate to admit it because we like to see sports as a battle of virtues, but most close games come down to luck. LSU lost a lot of close games. That's bad luck. they won some close games. That's good luck. I do think, on balance, we were more unlucky than lucky last season, especially concerning injuries, but we were more lucky than unlucky in 2007, so it all balances out.
The key is being so good that you win by 20. Which is unlikely.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 4:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Actually, it was. The notion that the bad calls against Florida and Bama were bad breaks is consistently refuted with the assertion that they had no impact on the outcome of the game, but the Georgia penalty is brought up as a "good break" without enduring the same analysis (or, worse yet, being analyzed and laughably regarded as more consequential than the other two).
You assume too much, this was never implied.
quote:That is only a valid conclusion if it is accepted that the Bama and Florida bad calls had as much impact against LSU as the Georgia call had for us. No one challenging the bad break notion of last season has come remotely close to acknowledging that.
The point was that LSU suffered "bad breaks" last year. LSU also was on the receiving end of some "good luck" as well.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 4:57 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:So your speculative conclusion would be that the only reason for us not to have good coaching this year is if Miles decides to not try again and still live off the laurels of his 2007 Championship.
I'm speculating that he didn't try as hard,
If that's the only way we'll have bad coaching, I'd consider that reason enough for optimism.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 5:04 pm to King Joey
quote:
refuted with the assertion that they had no impact on the outcome of the game,
Nah, you are just making shite up. All I "asserted" was that PSU played on the same field as LSU.
quote:
That is only a valid conclusion if it is accepted that the Bama and Florida bad calls had as much impact against LSU as the Georgia call had for us. No one challenging the bad break notion of last season has come remotely close to acknowledging that.
was never implied in my post otherwise, you just assumed too much based on your own personal beliefs.
This post was edited on 6/30/10 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 6/30/10 at 5:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Not an assumption, but a reference to the posts throughout this thread. I have not made a comment on your individual views, only on the views presented by your side as a whole. The bad calls against Florida and Bama have already been dismissed as inconsequential and, therefore, not bad breaks. Thus, raising the Georgia bad call as a counterpoint to the bad breaks assertion is a deviation from logic expressed thus far by the opposition to the "snake bit" assertion. If your individual views differ and you do regard the Bama and Florida bad calls as consequential and meaningful bad breaks, then you differ radically from all others on your side of the thread who have expressed an opinion on the matter. If you do not, then your raising of the Georgia call is as disingenuous as I suggested it was.
was never implied in my post otherwise, you just assumed too much based on your own personal beliefs.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 5:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I never said anything about the PSU game. This is a case of you simply making shite up.
Nah, you are just making shite up. All I "asserted" was that PSU played on the same field as LSU.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 5:16 pm to Choctaw
quote:
...but you don't know if it has happened to Miles. Its speculation not fact.
How do you know it hasn't??????
Posted on 6/30/10 at 5:16 pm to King Joey
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quote:
was never implied in my post otherwise, you just assumed too much based on your own personal beliefs.
Not an assumption, but a reference to the posts throughout this thread. I have not made a comment on your individual views,
Since you quoted my words in your response and implied something that wasn't there, I think either you don't know how to respond to a post or you don't know how to separate one posters response from another.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 5:20 pm to AUmember
quote:
PP interception against Bama...
Bad call but we still wouldnt have won.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 5:22 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
quote:
Bad call but we still wouldnt have won.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 6/30/10 at 6:36 pm to AUmember
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I don't think that trend can continue this year. The more I look at last year, the more excited I get about this upcoming year
I could not agree with you more. I authored a "reasons for Optimism" post a few days ago, and I failed to mention the on-sides kick against Ole Miss.
I like the way you think. I feel very optimistic this year about LSU football. I am excited to have the opportunity to go to a bunch of games!
Posted on 7/1/10 at 3:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I do know how, but it is not always necessary. If I am addressing a particular poster's mindset, positions, attitude, etc., then of course I would separate out that posters comments from others (even other similar ones). In this case, however, I was commenting on the attitudes of a general group of posters and thus no such separation was necessary.
Since you quoted my words in your response and implied something that wasn't there, I think either you don't know how to respond to a post or you don't know how to separate one posters response from another.
If you feel you have been wrongly included in such a category, then by all means speak up and distinguish yourself: acknowledge that the bad calls vs. Bama and Florida were in fact consequential "bad breaks" balanced out (in part) by a consequential "good break" in the Georgia game.
Posted on 7/1/10 at 7:13 am to Kreg Jennings
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Luck is where opportunity meets preparation....we caught some bad breaks with injuries and calls, and addidtionally we failed to execute where oppurtunity allowed itself...so by that rationale...we weren't prepared to answer the call of oppurtunity because of our lack of execution, or preparation...
In short....luck (opportunity meeting preparation) wasn't in our corner.
What he said!
Posted on 7/1/10 at 7:19 am to dukke v
quote:
Bad call but we still wouldnt have won.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
Now how in the hell can you possibly know that? You can't. Nor can you be sure that LSU would not have scored after the PP interception gainst Bama, or the over-turned fumble against Ole Miss didn't change the outcome of that game.
Granted, I can't know any better than you what would have happened, but it sure would have been nice for the games to have been played fairly.
Posted on 7/1/10 at 7:36 am to GHamp
quote:
Great post!!!! We will be better. LSU IS still that 800lb Gorilla with a chainsaw for a PENIS....
this
Posted on 7/1/10 at 7:53 am to AUmember
This post was edited on 7/1/10 at 8:10 am
Posted on 7/1/10 at 8:50 am to Tiger_n_ATL
We are going into our third yr. without a QB. God help us. The rest of the team may be great but without a decent Qb it want matter! 
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