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AUmember
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It would have been better if it was narrated by the damn All State man..... Hell or even Morgan Freeman That dude voice sucks
STFU
I'm so sick of hearing from stupid MF'ers like you. There are always those morons who find it appropriate to bash everything. You don't have to like it, but keep your negative opinion to yourself.
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I think you're kidding yourself if you think their won't be as many dropped balls. RS is just now learning WR and he has a looooooooooooooooooooooong ways to go. He was dropping balls in the spring game...
TT is still raw and I never really thought TT had great hand strength to begin with.
RR is young.
You will see dropped balls this year, probably as much as last year and all the years before that...it comes with the game. Young/raw guys are going to make mistakes...coaching can only do so much.
I agree with you about RS, but not so much about Tolliver and RR. I think both of those guys will be solid and pretty dependable.
I don't think anyone is asking for these guys to be Larry Fitzgerald, but just a little more dependable. I think they will be.
Dropping passes.
Posted by AUmember on 7/6/10 at 12:11 pm
I originally entitled this thread "Dropped Balls", but thought better of it.
This is the first year in quite some time that I haven't been worried about our WR's dropping passes. I can remember back to Dwayne Bowe dropping passes thrown right in his hands. Of course Brandon Lafell, Buster Davis, even Early Doucet had his issues early on.
But this year I don't think we'll see as many dropped passes. Reuben Randle made some fabulous catches last year and I can't remember but one pass he dropped and that was in the Georgia game. Incidentally, he caught a pass on the very next play. TT is very reliable. I think he gets a little ahead of himself sometimes, but he's a threat. And of course Shep. He's gonna drop some easy passes because he plays one step ahead,and he's always looking to make a move after he catches the ball, but he'll make some highlight material catches too.
Thankfully, our WR's haven't been the subject of much banter this year for a change.
This is the first year in quite some time that I haven't been worried about our WR's dropping passes. I can remember back to Dwayne Bowe dropping passes thrown right in his hands. Of course Brandon Lafell, Buster Davis, even Early Doucet had his issues early on.
But this year I don't think we'll see as many dropped passes. Reuben Randle made some fabulous catches last year and I can't remember but one pass he dropped and that was in the Georgia game. Incidentally, he caught a pass on the very next play. TT is very reliable. I think he gets a little ahead of himself sometimes, but he's a threat. And of course Shep. He's gonna drop some easy passes because he plays one step ahead,and he's always looking to make a move after he catches the ball, but he'll make some highlight material catches too.
Thankfully, our WR's haven't been the subject of much banter this year for a change.
If JR had went to Bama, does he still get arrested in Mobile?
Posted by AUmember on 7/6/10 at 11:01 am
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but his bond was $2500.00. They couldn't have charged him with anything other than having cough syrup without a prescription. I believe in those cases, they can cite the offender and make him appear in court, but they don't have to arrest them. Just seems awfully petty to me.
re: Disspelling the offense caused the defense to be bad thought.
Posted by AUmember on 7/2/10 at 2:32 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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I'm not, I'm mostly agreeing with you and you are arguing with me.
My bad...I lost control.
re: Disspelling the offense caused the defense to be bad thought.
Posted by AUmember on 7/2/10 at 2:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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How many points did they score? How many yards did they accumulate?
You shouldn't ask this question because La. Tech outgained LSU. Even if LSU's offense goes 3 and out 3 out of 4times, La Tech should not be able to move the ball.
La Tech had 3 drives of 13 plays...Are you kidding me, you can't see that as a problem? :banghead:
re: Disspelling the offense caused the defense to be bad thought.
Posted by AUmember on 7/2/10 at 2:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You just listed HALF of LSu's schedule, Forrest.
How many points did UF, Bama, Ole Miss and PSU score despite the TOP disparity?
GO for it.
I didn't list Florida, Bama, and Ole Miss because they all have great defenses. Bama was #1 and Florida was #3. But the teams like ULL, La Tech, Tulane and such should not have these lenghty drives even if they don't score points.
Your a numb skull. I'm not talking about points, I'm talking about the length of time the defense is on the field.
Florida, Ole Miss, and Bama all had almost 200 yards rushing.
re: Disspelling the offense caused the defense to be bad thought.
Posted by AUmember on 7/2/10 at 12:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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fricking retarded. Total defense was average, to better than average and the scoring defense was stellar. This, despite the offense being totally unable to sustain drives.
Look here Roger Rabbit...
Our defense ranking was skewed because of our schedule. We played...ULL, La.Tech, Tulane, Moo State, and Vandy. Plus Georgia's offense was no good and Florida's offense struggled too. Against SEC Competition our defense was less than stellar.
Explain this away...
LSU's offense converted 50% of it's 3rd downs against Washington, averaged 5.1 yards per carry and 9.1 yards per pass, both of which were better than Washington's average. Yet Washington ran 87 plays to LSU's 49.
fricking LA. Tech ran 87 plays against LSU. That's ridiculous.
Just because the defense doesn't give up a lot of points doesn't mean it isn't hurting the offense. LSU gave up too many long drives. If your offense isn't on the field, they can't score.
re: Disspelling the offense caused the defense to be bad thought.
Posted by AUmember on 7/2/10 at 11:51 am to TigerFanNKaty
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Team LSU OPP
Washington 5-10 / 11-19
VANDERBILT 9-17 / 4-15
UL-LAFAYETTE 7-12 / 6-16
Mississippi State 2-13 / 8-19
Georgia 5-14 / 7-17
FLORIDA 1-9 / 5-12
AUBURN 6-15 / 4-13
TULANE 7-10 / 3-13
Alabama 5-14 / 4-14
LOUISIANA TECH 2-9 / 5-18
Ole Miss 5-13 / 6-14
ARKANSAS 4-12 / 5-15
Penn State 3-12 / 7-19
Totals 61-160 / 75-204
3rd down conversions per game. Let it go dude the defense while admittedly needs to improve they were not the problem with the offense, can you seriously look at these glaring 3rd down stats and tell me the defense caused the offense problems. 2-13 at Moo State, 3-12 in the bowl game and 1-9 against Florida and worst of all 2-9 against La Tech.
I guess I need to use heiroglyphics...
I didn't say that the defense caused the offense to be bad, I said the defensive performance contributed to the ineffectiveness of the offense by allowing long drives, and not enough stops on 3rd down.
re: Disspelling the offense caused the defense to be bad thought.
Posted by AUmember on 7/2/10 at 9:53 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Except sometimes stats hide important nuances in the game. If the defense is constantly on the filed 'defending' between the 20's, allowing the other teams offense to run up and down practically at will (something that happens frequently with Chavis' defenses), then the offense is left standing on the sidelines, giving up important minutes and possessions to the other team, eliminating your own scoring opportunities as as result.
Now you could argue, that this might allow you to win a game "ugly" by something like a score of 10-7, so "a win is a win", but you are playing with fire in doing that by not putting teams away and keeping them in striking distance, allowing them to win on a last minute FG or TD
It's easy for the offense to be ranked poorly when they are running half the plays the other team is running (See Washington and Miss St.). And if my memory serves me, LSU didn't punt but twice in the game against Washington. Against Georgia the defense allowed two 18 play drives in the second half. One of those was Georgia's first drive of the second half, so don't try to convince me that the defense was tired.
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Les could win the NC next year and the year after and then finish in the top 5 for 10 straight years and I still wouldn't say he was a better coach than Nick Saban.
Here's a napkin, wipe that shite off your chin! :lol:
re: Disspelling the offense caused the defense to be bad thought.
Posted by AUmember on 7/2/10 at 9:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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There is a much better argument for the offense causing the defensive stats to look worse thant the reverse. LSU's offense was good for a couple/three drives a game. About it.
Then make the argument!
I'm not saying the defense is responsible for how poorly our offense played last year. I'm simply saying that the defensive woes were not solely the responsibility of a terrible offense. Our defense was not good last year, and it needs to get better...That is all!
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LSU didn't move the ball since the 1st quarter. And one call didnot decide that game.
Yeah, and I bet you turned off the TV after the second out when Mr. Morris came to bat.
I would further contend that after Kentucky kicked their go-ahead field goal, you were absent as well.
I'll be sure to contact Les and let him know that he is not to score a touchdown, miss the 2 point conversion, and recover an onside.
re: Disspelling the offense caused the defense to be bad thought.
Posted by AUmember on 7/1/10 at 10:02 am to JustSmokin
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Again, one only has to look at our 3rd down efficiency on both sides to understand why we ran so few plays per game and lost the TOP battle.
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WTF are you talking about!? LSU's scoring defense was number 11 in the nation last season. And that was despite and offense that had little to no productivity which gave the opposing offense not only more snaps to work with but good field position too. Yet the Chavis defense WAS NUMBER 11 IN THE NATION!!!
I wasn't talking about scoring, I was talking about all the time the defense spent on the field. The more time the defense spends on the field, the less time the offense spends on the field.
I agree completely that it works both ways, but our defense is just as much to blame for our record last year as our offense. We can't put the blame for our offensive troubles solely on the offense. The same way we can't put the blame for our defensive troubles solely on the defense. Chavis did not have a good year last year and that is being over-looked.
re: Disspelling the offense caused the defense to be bad thought.
Posted by AUmember on 7/1/10 at 9:22 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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but the O's poor yards per play (especially rushing) tells me that the O really was that bad.
I could not agree more. We(myself included) have just been laying the blame all at Crowton's feet, while the defense was just not very good.
Disspelling the offense caused the defense to be bad thought.
Posted by AUmember on 7/1/10 at 9:14 am
OK, so I started a thread yesterday about how porous our defense was last year, and nearly every response was centered around the idea that our defense was tired because they were on the field too long from lack of offensive production. Well that idea doesn't hold water.
I think we can all agree that this idea would be plausible in the second half of games, or even late 2nd quarter. But opening drives for the opposing team, number of plays in a drive, and time of possession would be a valid yard-stick if taken in the first half. We can also take into account the number of 3 and outs that LSU had in the first half of games.
Washington:
1st possession: 85 yards in 10 plays.
2nd possession: Int returned for a TD.
3rd possession: 69 yards in 9 plays
All of the above is in the 1st quarter and LSU had 1 - 3 and out.
Moo State:
1st possession: 1 play intercepted by PP.
2nd Possession: 9 plays 66 yards.
LSU had 1 three and out in the 1st quarter.
In the second quarter Moo State had 7 and 6 play drives. LSU had 1 three and out.
Georgia:
LSU absolutely dominated this game offensively. They had 0 three and outs in the 1st half. Georgia's opening drive of the 3rd quarter went 18 plays. Georgia also had another drive that went 18 plays in the 4th quarter.
Florida:
Florida's opening drive went 13 plays and used 8 minutes off the clock. LSU had 0 three and outs in the 1st quarter and 1 in the second quarter.
Alabama:
Bama's opening drive went 9 plays. LSU's 1st 2 possessions were 3 and outs, but LSU's offense had more yards in the 1st quarter then Bama. LSU's opening drive of the 3rd quarter went 9 plays...Bama's went 8 plays for 81 yards.
La Tech:
La Tech had drives in the first half of 6, 10, 7, 11, and 13 plays. LSU had 2 three and outs in the 1st half.
Ole Miss:
LSU's defense could not stop Ole Miss at all. LSU had 0 three and outs, but did throw an itnterception on their 1st possession.
The reason LSU's offense ran so many fewer plays than their competition is because the defense couldn't get the other team off the field. Perhaps LSU's defense is why the offense looked so bad.
Chavis' bend but don't break defense is leaving the other team on the field too long. Our defense didn't cause 3 and outs very much. In addition to making the defense tired, it takes the offense out of any rhythm they may have had.
I don't care if you don't agree, but the facts are the facts. :geauxtigers:
I think we can all agree that this idea would be plausible in the second half of games, or even late 2nd quarter. But opening drives for the opposing team, number of plays in a drive, and time of possession would be a valid yard-stick if taken in the first half. We can also take into account the number of 3 and outs that LSU had in the first half of games.
Washington:
1st possession: 85 yards in 10 plays.
2nd possession: Int returned for a TD.
3rd possession: 69 yards in 9 plays
All of the above is in the 1st quarter and LSU had 1 - 3 and out.
Moo State:
1st possession: 1 play intercepted by PP.
2nd Possession: 9 plays 66 yards.
LSU had 1 three and out in the 1st quarter.
In the second quarter Moo State had 7 and 6 play drives. LSU had 1 three and out.
Georgia:
LSU absolutely dominated this game offensively. They had 0 three and outs in the 1st half. Georgia's opening drive of the 3rd quarter went 18 plays. Georgia also had another drive that went 18 plays in the 4th quarter.
Florida:
Florida's opening drive went 13 plays and used 8 minutes off the clock. LSU had 0 three and outs in the 1st quarter and 1 in the second quarter.
Alabama:
Bama's opening drive went 9 plays. LSU's 1st 2 possessions were 3 and outs, but LSU's offense had more yards in the 1st quarter then Bama. LSU's opening drive of the 3rd quarter went 9 plays...Bama's went 8 plays for 81 yards.
La Tech:
La Tech had drives in the first half of 6, 10, 7, 11, and 13 plays. LSU had 2 three and outs in the 1st half.
Ole Miss:
LSU's defense could not stop Ole Miss at all. LSU had 0 three and outs, but did throw an itnterception on their 1st possession.
The reason LSU's offense ran so many fewer plays than their competition is because the defense couldn't get the other team off the field. Perhaps LSU's defense is why the offense looked so bad.
Chavis' bend but don't break defense is leaving the other team on the field too long. Our defense didn't cause 3 and outs very much. In addition to making the defense tired, it takes the offense out of any rhythm they may have had.
I don't care if you don't agree, but the facts are the facts. :geauxtigers:
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Bad call but we still wouldnt have won.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
Now how in the hell can you possibly know that? You can't. Nor can you be sure that LSU would not have scored after the PP interception gainst Bama, or the over-turned fumble against Ole Miss didn't change the outcome of that game.
Granted, I can't know any better than you what would have happened, but it sure would have been nice for the games to have been played fairly.
re: LSU was snake-bitten last year.
Posted by AUmember on 7/1/10 at 7:13 am to Kreg Jennings
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Luck is where opportunity meets preparation....we caught some bad breaks with injuries and calls, and addidtionally we failed to execute where oppurtunity allowed itself...so by that rationale...we weren't prepared to answer the call of oppurtunity because of our lack of execution, or preparation...
In short....luck (opportunity meeting preparation) wasn't in our corner.
What he said!
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[I presume you are referring to the "surprise" onside kick that we attempted. IMO, that was a very poor decision by the staff. It entirely reversed the momentum of the game at a key juncture. Moreover, whatever bad luck we suffered was more than offset by Miles' lunacy at the end of the game.]
So was it a good call when it worked in 2007? Was it a good call when the Saints did it in the Super-Bowl?
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[I agree. To be fair, though, the passes intended for LaFell were often at his ankles or behind him due to the ineptitude of our QB's. Also, at some point, the coaching staff has to be held accountable for teaching proper technique and fostering mental focus amongst the players.]
The passes in the Ole Miss game were in his hands.
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