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re: LSU/UNC line

Posted on 8/16/10 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26743 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 6:38 pm to
And Georgia Tech was favored by 3-4 when we played them. So fricking what
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 6:39 pm to
Silver Lining:

LSU can just start gameplanning for the SECOND game. This one is lost.

Apparently, Tony Two Toes just weighed in. You all KNOW that means its OVER!!!



How do some people actually survive in the real world?
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37013 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 6:40 pm to
Well said.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24868 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 6:51 pm to
Way too early to read a line.

I would normally say a line move on Monday prior to the following Sat. contest could be a set up, whereby a major mover places a substantial bet to get a line move in order to drop the bank on the other side.

But this is too early for a play like that.

There's just not enough volume to establish a settled line this early on a game with so many question marks.
Posted by The ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
825 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 6:54 pm to
Oddsmakers from Online Sportsbook Sportsbook.com have made Georgia Tech –4 point spread favorites for the Chick-fil-A Bowl against LSU. Current College Fooball Public Betting Information shows that 75% of more than 3,659 bets for this game have been placed on the Georgia Tech -4.

You have answered your own smart arse uninformed response. See how the NUMBER of bets favored GT, and LSU won. Smart money moved the other way at the end.

Go back to mommy and let her give you a bath.
Posted by Hock
Whynot
Member since Mar 2010
103 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 6:57 pm to
you seem well informed on the subject matter where might I find this info for my personal use! strugglimg mightily lately w baseball picks
Posted by The ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
825 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 6:59 pm to
take the Astros tonight -122 or so...hurry its at 805EST
Posted by Hock
Whynot
Member since Mar 2010
103 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:02 pm to
i already have the astros and padres at 87, THANKS!!!
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

I don't have any reason to suspect that the new money bets are any more accurate than those made by the old wagers


I think the implication is that this wasn't just a lot of new bettors coming in on UNC, but one or more big hitters who suddenly dropped enough on UNC to reverse the line in UNC's favor despite the fact that 70% of the bets (but not the $) are on LSU. The big hitters (who are on UNC) frequently know something the casual bettors (who are on LSU) don't. Not always, of course, but frequently.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Oddsmakers from Online Sportsbook Sportsbook.com have made Georgia Tech –4 point spread favorites for the Chick-fil-A Bowl against LSU. Current College Fooball Public Betting Information shows that 75% of more than 3,659 bets for this game have been placed on the Georgia Tech -4.

You have answered your own smart arse uninformed response. See how the NUMBER of bets favored GT, and LSU won. Smart money moved the other way at the end.


Exactly, 75% of the BETS were on GT -4, but the 25% on LSU had as much money on LSU +4 as the 75% did on GT -4 (presumably, since the line is supposed to divide the money roughly evenly), so the big hitters were on LSU, while the casual bettors were on GT. The big hitters were right, and the casual bettors were wrong.

Now, we apparently have the reverse situation. 70% of the bets, but only (presumably) 50% of the money, is on LSU, while only 30% of the bets (but presumably 50% of the money) is on UNC. The big hitters are on UNC, while the casual bettors are on LSU.
Posted by The ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
825 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:07 pm to
that's my point
Posted by willeteal
Texarkana
Member since Aug 2010
2245 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:45 pm to


I'd like to see some statistics that show that "smart money" moves beat the spread more than 53% (what it takes to make a profit vs the vig)

If so, it seems like you could make an easy living just by following it.
Posted by The ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
825 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 9:31 pm to
how many casual gamblers do you know that win on a consistent basis? Not many.
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 6:49 am to
What's the latest line? Yesterday it was -8

Sounds like easy money to me
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7729 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 8:07 am to
quote:

The big hitters (who are on UNC) frequently know something the casual bettors (who are on LSU) don't. Not always, of course, but frequently.

If this comes to pass, and UNC wins or covers with 12 players out, it's time to break out the point shaving investigation.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37013 posts
Posted on 9/4/10 at 8:21 am to
Looks like the "big hitters" didn't know shite.
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