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re: LSU supposed to open with TCU in 2013
Posted on 7/3/11 at 3:32 pm to wilfont
Posted on 7/3/11 at 3:32 pm to wilfont
Our SEC west schedule is hard enough, but the national attention it gives our school is great. I'm for opening up with a real hard or respected school, but not during the middle of our SEC schedule. Unless one of the teams gets blown out the media/voters will spin it to it was the first game and now the team is way stronger blah blah. Our schedule then would help us if we did slip that first game. Again the national attention for the program is to big to pass up. And as a fan I love it; now I'm sure if that one loss kept us out of the national championship I would cry like a baby to change it, but that is what makes it so much fun to watch. Last year I stayed at the Turquoise in Orange Beach for labor day weekend and there was Al and Auburn fans everywhere. They all met down by the pool to watch the Al game and a few for Auburn, but they all were waiting and excited about LSU's game that evening.
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Posted on 7/3/11 at 3:41 pm to MrWiseGuy
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Now, the West Virginia thing, you got me there. Still trying to figure that one out.
Look at the games LSU has scheduled. They are BCS opponents that LSU doesn't think can actually win. LSU is thinking TCU game will be like Boise State/UGA game 1. Oregon game was scheduled before their rise to elite stature. They were solid, but not National Championship Game good. Same with West Virginia, UNC, Washington, Arizona State, Arizona, and Oregon State. Selective scheduling against teams with a name that LSU will beat.
This post was edited on 7/3/11 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 7/3/11 at 3:47 pm to deuce985
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Also, just my opinion but I think the SEC has been severely overrated the past two years. The SEC isn't anywhere near as top heavy as it once was. The entire East is a mess and all the power has shifted to the West. SEC certainly wasn't as dominate in bowl games this past year. You could pick at least 2 powerhouses in each side, not last year.
True the traditional east powers might be down, but the SEC is no where near overated. UT, UGA, and UF was down in the East, and at that same time all 3 was breaking in new QB's, two of those freshmen. As far as bowl season, Arky shite the bed. Kentucky was kentucky. Tenn had its heart ripped out, once again, in the last seconds. South Carolina had to go back to the same place they had just been destroyed at a month earlier. And UGA had the pleasure of going 6-6 and playing one of the best non AQ teams in the nation. A UCF team that gave up less than 13 ppg last season and was 7th in the nation in total defense.
The 4th place west team beat the Big 10 co champs by 42 points. Now that's strength throughout the conference.
And if you don't agree or comprehend why we schedule these types of games, refer back to 07 and VA Tech. Nuff said.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 3:48 pm to AlejandroInHouston
quote:This is similar to the argument that the SECCG, without which LSU's last national title would have been 1958, will cost us a championship at some point.
I agree it's so freaking dumb for us to play a tough OOC schedule when the SEC is this dominant.
It will cost us a MNC shot at some point.
I love the tough schedules. I watch football to be entertained. LSU@TCU > MTSU@LSU.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 3:52 pm to 7thWardTiger
Miss st was up last year and will be again this year. Power shifted to the west. And Ark was a good team too," not good enough to beat us without us scoring 2 td's for them" even though they crapped the bed in the bowl.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 3:53 pm to hemiroid
Well, OSU had to cheat to beat Ar-Kanasas, so fair trade I guess.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 3:57 pm to deuce985
quote:Because sometimes we need them to win national titles.
It is pointless until the SEC starts losing respect. Why should we please the national crowd just to add another tough OOC game when everyone else in the SEC schedules creampuffs?
In 2007, if we had played say, Arkansas State instead of Virginia Tech, we would have been watching the Buckeyes and Hokies duke it out for the title a week after we murdered Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl.
In 2003, if we had played say, New Mexico State instead of @Arizona, we would have been playing Michigan in the Rose Bowl while the Sooners and Trojans got it on in New Orleans.
This post was edited on 7/3/11 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 7/3/11 at 4:11 pm to JJ27
I'm wearing purple to that game
Posted on 7/3/11 at 4:52 pm to JJ27
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Look at the games LSU has scheduled. They are BCS opponents that LSU doesn't think can actually win. LSU is thinking TCU game will be like Boise State/UGA game 1. Oregon game was scheduled before their rise to elite stature. They were solid, but not National Championship Game good. Same with West Virginia, UNC, Washington, Arizona State, Arizona, and Oregon State. Selective scheduling against teams with a name that LSU will beat.
The Oregon game was scheduled at the beginning of last season when Oregon was ranked in the top 10. Bc they cancelled their games with Tulane. In 09 LSU cancelled their series with Tulane to play a UNC team that was ranked in the top 25 too.
And in 2006 when LSU scheduled TCU they were a top 10 team.
This post was edited on 7/3/11 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 7/3/11 at 5:09 pm to MrWiseGuy
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Recruiting. Reason why we are playing in Dallas this year. Why we are playing a team from the Dallas area in TCU. National TV exposure. Playing these games is all for recruiting. Now, the West Virginia thing, you got me there. Still trying to figure that one out
I think this is extremely overstated. LSU will play on National TV 7-10 times in a given year depending on the schedule. They don't need to play these games for recruiting purposes like they used to have to 10-15 years ago since they're on CBS or ESPN just about every week. LSU gets plenty of TV exposure. The biggest reason LSU is doing this is for money. They couldn't get Oregon to come to Baton Rouge without returning the trip, so they get the next best thing.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 5:25 pm to medtiger
quote:I'd say that it's slightly overstated.
I think this is extremely overstated.
National tv vs. regional tv is a big difference. We're on CBS playing Florida while Ole Miss is on JP playing Vandy. That kind of thing adds up.
While all the Big Ten schools are playing MAC opponents, LSU is playing the game of the century.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 5:27 pm to Noplacelikehome
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The Oregon game was scheduled at the beginning of last season when Oregon was ranked in the top 10. Bc they cancelled their games with Tulane. In 09 LSU cancelled their series with Tulane to play a UNC team that was ranked in the top 25 too.
And in 2006 when LSU scheduled TCU they were a top 10 team.
Yep and they are all exactly what I said they are. Solid teams that LSU feels safe playing. Oregon was not expected to a national title contender when the game was scheduled. There's tough scheduling and there is suicide scheduling. If LSU didn't feel comfortable, they wouldn't schedule the games.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 6:18 pm to xiv
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National tv vs. regional tv is a big difference.
Definitely, but if we're on CBS or ESPN, that's national TV. The times we're on TV but not on National TV are few and far between. Last year, the only games LSU played that weren't on national TV were the ULM and McNeese games.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 6:59 pm to medtiger
All true. The national exposure from the Oregon game, however, is a huge deal, so it imho it isn't overstated for this particular situation. Here's why:
In 2006, we played at Arizona. Mediocre opponent, national tv, week 3, decisive victory. Good situation.
In 2011, we open the season against Oregon, a highly-ranked and nationally-respected opponent, in week 1 (when people are most starved for football), on national tv (no doubt the most anticipated game of the week), in the coolest stadium outside of Louisiana, in the most fertile state in terms of high school recruits. It's the perfect storm. This may be the best-scheduled LSU ooc game of my lifetime.
In 2006, we played at Arizona. Mediocre opponent, national tv, week 3, decisive victory. Good situation.
In 2011, we open the season against Oregon, a highly-ranked and nationally-respected opponent, in week 1 (when people are most starved for football), on national tv (no doubt the most anticipated game of the week), in the coolest stadium outside of Louisiana, in the most fertile state in terms of high school recruits. It's the perfect storm. This may be the best-scheduled LSU ooc game of my lifetime.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 7:10 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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I agree it's so freaking dumb for us to play a tough OOC schedule when the SEC is this dominant.
It will cost us a MNC shot at some point.
So could playing 4 directional universities in one year. If this is your belief, you should advocate LSU leave for the B east.
Teams should be penalized for playing shitty OOC schedules. No one gives a shite about watching those games.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 7:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I seem to remember an SEC team in the last decade playing Citadel, Louisiana Tech, and Louisiana-Monroe as their OOC opponents.
So could playing 4 directional universities in one year.
If it were Citadel, Louisiana Tech, and Georgia Tech, they wouldn't have been shut out of the BCSCG.
WDE
quote:Omitted the "OOC."
Teams should be penalized for playing shitty schedules.
If your eight conference foes are all ranked, and you schedule four patsies OOC, you'll still have a top 10 sked.
USC often has a tougher OOC than LSU; but LSU, more often than not, has a tougher SOS. If they have the same record, LSU should be ranked ahead anytime this happens.
This post was edited on 7/3/11 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 7/3/11 at 7:20 pm to xiv
I believe in order to qualify for a BCS bowl, you should have to schedule at least one BCS level game OOC.
Maybe I am in the minority, but I don't think the SEC, top to bottom....is as great as many other people think it is to begin with.
Maybe I am in the minority, but I don't think the SEC, top to bottom....is as great as many other people think it is to begin with.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 7:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I hope so--that's an awful idea.
I believe in order to qualify for a BCS bowl, you should have to schedule at least one BCS level game OOC.
Maybe I am in the minority,
Posted on 7/3/11 at 7:29 pm to xiv
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quote:
I believe in order to qualify for a BCS bowl, you should have to schedule at least one BCS level game OOC.
Maybe I am in the minority,
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I hope so--that's an awful idea.
Not really. Nothing wrong with encouraging competition and discouraging a run of shitty non conference games.
Posted on 7/3/11 at 7:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:All the computers take SOS into account.
Not really. Nothing wrong with encouraging competition and discouraging a run of shitty non conference games.
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