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LSU Substance Abuse Policy

Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:20 pm
Posted by GEAUXLSUFAN401
Member since Aug 2010
1584 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:20 pm
Here is the LSU substance abuse policy. Everyone has been trying to figure out if the suspension will last only one game or...

HERE IS THE ANSWER

POLICY

If this is the second violation (as inferred from the plurality of the word tests)
quote:

Suspension from up to 15% (rounding method used) of countable contests and/or suspension up to 30 days or combination thereof upon recommendation of treatment team.
This post was edited on 10/19/11 at 3:26 pm
Posted by TigerTailsSoup
Member since Sep 2005
10830 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:23 pm to
Can you summarize what is expected penalty? Can't open attachment on road
Posted by bradwieser
Cornell Fan
Member since May 2008
10555 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:24 pm to
done for the year
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28345 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:24 pm to
I guess the question is:

Is this the first or second failed test?
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28345 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Can you summarize what is expected penalty?


First offense...treatment, blah, blah, blah plus coach's discretion.

Second offense...15% of contests or 30 days.

Third offense...one year.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:28 pm to
12 contests is 2 games.
Posted by BigTyminLSU
Member since Sep 2011
616 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:28 pm to
Second offense was up to 15% of contests or up to 30 days.
This post was edited on 10/19/11 at 3:30 pm
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28345 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

2 games


You rounded up?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43173 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:29 pm to
Is this 2nd offense?
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31758 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:29 pm to
The way i read that it's basically discretionary. If the person dos treatment, gets tested more and is clean, all is well.

Also here is a key thing from the press release...

violation of team rules

this affirms that it is an in house deal and will be up to miles.

one game should suffice
This post was edited on 10/19/11 at 3:31 pm
Posted by bradwieser
Cornell Fan
Member since May 2008
10555 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Second offense was up to %15 of contests or up to 30 days.
exactly, they'll do 1 game.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

UP TO


People, don't forget these words.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12357 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:30 pm to
this will be a 1 game suspension, no more
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89584 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Second offense...15% of contests or 30 days.


Sorry - I'm an attorney - "up to" 15% or "up to" 30 days is not the same thing as 15% or 30 days.

1 game might be sufficient, with the next 1 being a year, the following 1 is "have a nice life".

Let's not make more out of this than it is. Is what they did (if accurate, synthetic weed, which is a terrible marketing campaign for a terrible product) better, worse or about the same as Cliff Harris?

Posted by dsheely
Cleveland, TN
Member since Jan 2006
335 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:31 pm to
I would read it as 15% of games to be played (or games remaining, 5). Which would be one game suspension.
Posted by GEAUXLSUFAN401
Member since Aug 2010
1584 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

You rounded up?


quote:

Suspension from up to 15% (rounding method used) of countable contests and/or suspension up to 30 days or combination thereof upon recommendation of treatment team.
Posted by Ryno_Kill
Member since Jan 2004
2408 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:32 pm to
I'm taking it countable contest includes only games scheduled as of today So that would mean up to 2 games rounding up. They will miss 1 game if I know Lester.
Posted by JJT
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2009
347 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:32 pm to
Is it based on entire season or remaining games. If remaining games a one game suspension would be on target
Posted by GEAUXLSUFAN401
Member since Aug 2010
1584 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:38 pm to
it just says countable contests. It doesn't say countable remaining contests. So i would guess it will be based off of 12 games (countable season games--SEC championship is not countable because it is not guaranteed).
Posted by TigerfFaithful
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
353 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 3:50 pm to
The policy suggests that athletes are subject to both NCAA testing and LSU aministered testing. My guess is that a member institutions's policy must be at least as stringent as the NCAA's policy. Or, perhaps the NCAA follows the member institution's policy.

Based upon my reading of the policy, it can be inferred that this is either a first or second violation. A third violation would have automatically resulted in a "[o]ne-year suspension from competition." In other words, the player(s) involved would be finished for the rest of the season and, possibly, at LSU. In my opinion only, this is a second violation because there is a suspension.
This post was edited on 10/19/11 at 3:53 pm
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