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LSU Program Expectations (football)
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:12 pm
1) Top-40 offense - Never shut out. Ever.
2) Top-20 defense
3) Solid special teams
3) At least 40% chance to Beat Bama each year, with a competitive 4th QTR-decided game each year.
4) SEC West - strong annual contenders, not just competitors.
If these are ALL in-place, I'll take the odds with other goals, like SEC Championships and Playoff participation.
If ANY of the 4 are not, then...
Grade = Not Acceptable
3 questions:
Q1) Are these expectations reasonable for the LSU situation/program?
Q2) Is the current formula acceptable to you, and if so, why?
Q3) What one thing, if you personally were king, would you prescribe as a change (try to be practical)?
2) Top-20 defense
3) Solid special teams
3) At least 40% chance to Beat Bama each year, with a competitive 4th QTR-decided game each year.
4) SEC West - strong annual contenders, not just competitors.
If these are ALL in-place, I'll take the odds with other goals, like SEC Championships and Playoff participation.
If ANY of the 4 are not, then...
Grade = Not Acceptable
3 questions:
Q1) Are these expectations reasonable for the LSU situation/program?
Q2) Is the current formula acceptable to you, and if so, why?
Q3) What one thing, if you personally were king, would you prescribe as a change (try to be practical)?
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 12:52 pm
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:15 pm to TigerBert
Nope. Expect 4-5 losses. Lose 2-3 and call it a successful year. That's our program now.
Nobody cares about offensive stats either. Get outta here with that, baw!
Nobody cares about offensive stats either. Get outta here with that, baw!
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:18 pm to abellsujr
Are you being sarcastic? We are in line for a big season next year. To answer the OP 10 wins should be the annual floor.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:18 pm to TigerBert
Honestly, those are acceptable and reasonable expectations given the stature of the program. If LSU attained these they would beat Bama at least once every three years and should win the West once every four years.
I would add that I expect a coach that is an elite tactician on one side of the ball and is a recognized developer of players.
I would add that I expect a coach that is an elite tactician on one side of the ball and is a recognized developer of players.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:25 pm to TigerBert
I agree. If I were F King I would excuse myself and retire. Now if that weren't an option, then I would fire Joe Alleva and write a blank check to Scott Woodward at A&M. Yes I know A&M has more money. He wouldn't leave for the money, but you gotta throw it out there to make it worth his time to consider. I wouldn't let him leave until he agrees to be the next AD. Give him whatever he wants. He has done it at Washington and now at A&M. He is a Baton Rouge guy and can make good to great hires. He pulled Petersen from Boise and Jimbo from FSU.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:33 pm to TigerBert
quote:
Q1) Are these expectations reasonable for the LSU situation/program?
Eminently reasonable, borderline overly reasonable to lowered expectations.
quote:
Q2) Is the current formula acceptable to you, and if so, why?
Absolutely not. Offense has gotten worse, recruiting has gotten worse, performances against Bama have gotten worse. There is no objective metric where O has the program in a better place than before he was hired.
quote:
Q3) What one thing, if you personally were king,would you prescribe as a change (try to be practical)?
Clean out the entire coaching staff and make Urban Meyer, Chris Petersen, James Franklin and Gary Patter tell me no before looking to Dave Aranda.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:33 pm to Weaver
I mean, tbh, the only one that's missing there is #1.
I think O has done a great job at reinvigorating our identity. Great defense, great special teams (sans punt return game), low penalties, disciplined football.
Now, it's time to really address No. 1.
I think O has done a great job at reinvigorating our identity. Great defense, great special teams (sans punt return game), low penalties, disciplined football.
Now, it's time to really address No. 1.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:18 pm to TigerBert
With the talent that Coach Eaux is bringing in, we should expect 10 win seasons, with a NY6 bowl every year. No reason why we can't be in the top 12 discussion every season.
In my opinion, Alabama and Florida are at or above our level every season in talent. TAM and Auburn are even with us. So that should be the four competitive games. We should win the rest.
In my opinion, Alabama and Florida are at or above our level every season in talent. TAM and Auburn are even with us. So that should be the four competitive games. We should win the rest.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:32 pm to abellsujr
quote:
Nope. Expect 4-5 losses. Lose 2-3 and call it a successful year. That's our program now
No it isn't
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:43 pm to bencoleman
quote:
No it isn't
Why not?
You said there is zero NFL talent on the oline roster...none! Not one player will make it to the nfl
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:48 pm to TigerBert
IMO, top-20 defense is way too low, IF we have the best DC in CFB.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:54 pm to bstew3006
quote:
You said there is zero NFL talent on the oline roster...none! Not one player will make it to the nfl
I don't know the thread in question, but it totally sounds like something he would say to demean our players
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:58 pm to CanIPlay636
quote:
I don't know the thread in question, but it totally sounds like something he would say to demean our players
Just read
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:59 pm to TigerBert
quote:
Q1) Are these expectations reasonable for the LSU situation/program?
In the current state of affairs with King and Alleva running things? Not just no but frick no.
Based on LSU fan support, booster support, facilities, tradition, location, other athletic team success and in-state recruiting?
Not just yes but frick yes!
quote:
Q2) Is the current formula acceptable to you, and if so, why?
frick no. We just erased this formula off the chalkboard when Les Miles was fired. Or at least that's what we were told. So far, other than an improvement in special-teams, this looks like Les Miles reincarnate.
quote:
Q3) What one thing, if you personally were king, would you prescribe as a change (try to be practical)?
In the immediate? Captain Orgeron must get a young, enthusiastic, dynamic offensive coordinator that runs a modern system. And most importantly....
Leave.
Him.
The frick.
Alone!
He must be given the autonomy to run his system the way it needs to be ran, hire the position coaches he needs and make the necessary personnel decisions in regards to players, to make his system successful.
You can hire the best offensive coordinator in the world but if you don't give him the freedom to run his offense then that's like hiring Jimi Hendrix to play at your house party but handing him a play set of classical music, sitting him in front of a drum set and making him play solo.
In the long-term?
Alleva has to go. The guy is a cancer. He's a bean counter. His only objective is to maximize the profits so he can hand it to King so he can fulfill his vision of turning LSU, "went in dumb, come out dumb too", into an Ivy League school. Delusions of grandeur.
They are using the LSU football program as a vehicle to fund the academic side of the school.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:02 pm to nola000
quote:
Leave. Him. The frick. Alone! He must be given the autonomy to run his system the way it needs to be ran, hire the position coaches he needs and make the necessary personnel decisions in regards to players, to make his system successful
The only thing CEO should do on offensive is make the decision to go for it on 4th!
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:09 pm to bencoleman
quote:I certainly hope not Ben. We'll see what the expectations are for next year. But IMO, any more than one loss is a disappointment. And Texas will not be easy. But we should win.
No it isn't
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:56 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:
IMO, top-20 defense is way too low, IF we have the best DC in CFB.
Top-20 means between 1 and 20.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:00 pm to abellsujr
quote:
Nope. Expect 4-5 losses. Lose 2-3 and call it a successful year. That's our program now.
Were back to McClendon era football, just fill the seats, never beat Bama, and everything is hunky dory .
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:08 pm to bencoleman
quote:
Nope. Expect 4-5 losses. lose 2-3 and call it a successful year. That's our program now.
quote:
No it isn't
Well what is it ben? Does the team have talent or not? You change your opinion in every thread you're in. and from post to post.
This coaching staff, as it stands right now, will never win a championship as long as o is leading them.
Get your head out of your arse and accept this fact.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:13 pm to TigerBert
quote:
Q1) Are these expectations reasonable for the LSU situation/program?
No.
There's literally one team that approaches those goals.
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