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Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Choctaw is hanging on the sunny side of the street, even though its apparent its freaking nighttime. He is one of the last of the Baghdad Bobs.
I had more company until they decided to keep Crowton (which i didnt agree with BTW). Now its getting lonely over here.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:33 pm to Choctaw
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1. I was talking about an offensive scheme...not one set. I misunderstood Books....so technically im still right.
well than that just makes you an idiot. No one wants the wilcat to be the offensive scheme. Its a formation and a package we can run from time to time in a game that has proven to be effective in high school, college, and the nfl
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:34 pm to moneyg
When 90% of your offense is producing a 112 ranking nationally, I say increase the other 10%. 
Shepherd's plays last year were not options, and almost always involved him following a lead block between the tackles. Oh, and they were also the only plays where he appeared on the field.
Everyone agrees that our offense was pathetic. Everyone agrees that the OL underperformed.
Most of the posters in this thread are not able to explain why our staff was unable to make better use of the personnel available.
You seem to think otherwise. Can you explain?
Shepherd's plays last year were not options, and almost always involved him following a lead block between the tackles. Oh, and they were also the only plays where he appeared on the field.
Everyone agrees that our offense was pathetic. Everyone agrees that the OL underperformed.
Most of the posters in this thread are not able to explain why our staff was unable to make better use of the personnel available.
You seem to think otherwise. Can you explain?
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:34 pm to TigerBait1127
its pathetic that Holliday didn't get the ball more during his career and i pray we aren't going to let history repeat itself
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:36 pm to TigerBait1127
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No one wants the wilcat to be the offensive scheme. Its a formation and a package we can run from time to time in a game that has proven to be effective in high school, college, and the nfl
No shite...thats what started this whole thing.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:39 pm to Choctaw
we heard all off-season how great RS was at running the wildcat, then we didn't even run it this year. In the private scrimmages, he destroyed the defense playing QB. I don't care if he plays QB or not, but there is no reason LSU shouldn't run the wildcat. I'm sick of getting beat by it every year when we have the capability to run it the best.
Ole Miss was nothing offensively this year without McCluster and the Wildcat
Ole Miss was nothing offensively this year without McCluster and the Wildcat
This post was edited on 2/24/10 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:40 pm to Books
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fig out what that'd have been for RS and you have my answer
ETA: that'd probably be a smaller no. than what should have actually been run b/c of the lack of snaps they actually gave RS last year
I'm not understanding what you are saying.
My question is pretty simple. In your opinion, what percentage of plays SHOULD we run out of the wildcat formation? I'm trying to get a feel for how large a part of our offense it should be.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:42 pm to moneyg
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My question is pretty simple. In your opinion, what percentage of plays SHOULD we run out of the wildcat formation? I'm trying to get a feel for how large a part of our offense it should be.
your question is actually pretty stupid. It doesn't need to be set %, it can be flexible due to the flow of the game
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:48 pm to moneyg
quote:obviously
I'm not understanding what you are saying.
quote:why does there have to be a set percentage? you run it bc it can be effective w/ a guy that's a playmaker.
In your opinion, what percentage of plays SHOULD we run out of the wildcat formation?
This post was edited on 2/24/10 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:48 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:exactly, this dude's trying to pin down a set no. for some reason. The reason the WC is being brought up is bc it's proven to be an effective set and RS is as ideal as it gets for it. Esp when you struggle to find effective ways to get this guy the ball
your question is actually pretty stupid. It doesn't need to be set %, it can be flexible due to the flow of the game
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:51 pm to wahoocs
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Everyone agrees that our offense was pathetic. Everyone agrees that the OL underperformed.
Most of the posters in this thread are not able to explain why our staff was unable to make better use of the personnel available.
You seem to think otherwise. Can you explain?
My guess is that we tried to go to more of a spread offense last year which included a move to a zone blocking scheme. I think our coaching staff was not able to implement that scheme effectively. Just as importantly, the guy who should have been monitoring this and making sure that it either was successfully implemented or shelved didn't identify this as a huge problem early enough to make changes (To me, this is why Crowton should not be here). So, we were stuck midstream with a blocking scheme that was completely inept.
Zone blocking in itself isn't a bad thing. It can be great if you know how to implement it. But, it appears to me that Studrawa and Miles are much more comfortable in a more traditional assignment blocking scheme.
It amazes me that so many people think our main problem was QB or even playcalling. We obviously had issues in both. But, BY FAR, our biggest issue was OL play. There isn't much you can do effectively when your OL can not run block or protect the passer.
My point is that the minute we correct our OL problems (no guarantee) a lot of our problems are solved. Every question posed to Miles and every critique of our performance in the spring should be directed at the OL play, IMO.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:53 pm to Books
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exactly, this dude's trying to pin down a set no. for some reason. The reason the WC is being brought up is bc it's proven to be an effective set and RS is as ideal as it gets for it. Esp when you struggle to find effective ways to get this guy the ball
No, it's a pretty simple and generic question. I'm not asking you to give me a number that will apply to every single game.
But, you should be able to tell me whether you think we should run out of the Wildcat 5% of the time, 25% of the time, or 50% of the time, etc. I'm just trying to gauge your opinion.
My opinion is that the Wildcat should be about 5-10% of our offense...certainly no more. What is your opinion?
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:53 pm to moneyg
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My point is that the minute we correct our OL problems (no guarantee) a lot of our problems are solved. Every question posed to Miles and every critique of our performance in the spring should be directed at the OL play, IMO.
100% agreePosted on 2/24/10 at 9:54 pm to TigerBait1127
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your question is actually pretty stupid. It doesn't need to be set %, it can be flexible due to the flow of the game
I'm not saying it has to be a set percentage. I'm asking how much of our offense should the wildcate be in your opinion. Are you not able to grasp that question?
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:54 pm to moneyg
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My point is that the minute we correct our OL problems (no guarantee) a lot of our problems are solved.
i completely agree, and there is still no reason for us not to run the wildcat
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:57 pm to TigerBait1127
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i completely agree, and there is still no reason for us not to run the wildcat
ok.
You going to answer my question now?
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:59 pm to moneyg
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I'm not saying it has to be a set percentage. I'm asking how much of our offense should the wildcate be in your opinion. Are you not able to grasp that question?
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But what pct of total offensive plays should we be in that formation?
seemed like you were to me
I think that last year it should have been a significant part of our offense because we weren't moving the ball at all. Its low risk and puts good players in space
If our offense improves, it can be used in short yardage situations or in situations that it can be effective. Its a weapon to add to our arsenal instead of some stupid pistol formation. If our offense stalls too much, throw the wildcat out there for a change of pace. The national champions ran it for over 30% of their offense plays in a game. I think 10% would be a good amount and if its it working, keep rolling with it (see Arky vs. LSU)
some teams can't defend it (LSU), expose them for a weakness
This post was edited on 2/24/10 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:02 pm to moneyg
Yes. I agree with everything.
There really is no need to debate.
Everything came down to coordination, and we had NONE. From the beginning, in the middle, until the end.
Our season was pretty much a microcosm of our games. Losing down the stretch and ill prepared at the most inopportune times.
Our line will be less experienced, and our leaders on and off the field will not be changed. Great expectations? Do you believe in miracles?
There really is no need to debate.
Everything came down to coordination, and we had NONE. From the beginning, in the middle, until the end.
Our season was pretty much a microcosm of our games. Losing down the stretch and ill prepared at the most inopportune times.
Our line will be less experienced, and our leaders on and off the field will not be changed. Great expectations? Do you believe in miracles?
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:07 pm to TigerBait1127
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The national champions ran it for over 30% of their offense plays in a game
I find this very difficult to believe. Link?
I'd be very disappointed if we committed more than 10% of our offense to the wildcat.
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