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re: LSU fans: quit comparing Lee to McCoy

Posted on 4/4/09 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by lsulefty5
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
902 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 2:35 pm to
While we are making comparisons here, how about this:
Tolliver= randy moss
Chuck= ladanian tomlinson
Molten= jerry rice

Wait are we comparing their practices or what they've done on the field???
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34219 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Many other QBs in the SEC played the same defenses that Lee did, yet they didn't throw as many Ints

WTF are you yammering on about?

Chris Smelley, S Carolina 15 (10 games, So.)
Casey Dick, Arkansas 14 (11 games, Sr.)
Jevan Snead, Ole Miss 13 (3rd yr So.)
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21657 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Chris Smelley, S Carolina 15 (10 games, So.)
Casey Dick, Arkansas 14 (11 games, Sr.)
Jevan Snead, Ole Miss 13 (3rd yr So.)



You really want to point to Chris Smelley and Casey Dick as a "misery loves company" point? I mean, whatever makes you feel better. Point stays, that Lee had one of the worst seasons an LSU QB ever had. IF he would've worn #4, I would've sworn it was 1994.

ANd Snead is far and away a better QB than Lee. No reason to bring his name up and insult him like that comparing him to Lee.

Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34219 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 4:05 pm to
Hey doofus! did you notice the difference in experience compared to JLee, along with the # of ints?

Lets compare after JLees So. to Sr. yrs. OK?
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62679 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 4:13 pm to
Isn't one of the reason Lee gets compared to McCoy because they are both from Texas. This thread, like so many others on this subject, is much ado about nothing.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33353 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

and you could build a castle with the stone in Lafell's hands.
This could be one of the dumbest statements this week on the Rant.
Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 6:03 pm to
Now, put up Lee's stats...

Also list how many the QBs you listed had returned for TDs.

Don't stop with your research. I like it.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34219 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 6:43 pm to
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Also list how many the QBs you listed had returned for TDs.

Jevan Snead, 3rd ys So - 4 pick 6s
Chris Smelley, So - 3 pick 6s
Casey Dick, Sr. - 2 pick 6s
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:00 pm to
Robboob...

You just refuse to post Lee's stats, don't you.

I understand. Don't worry about it.

Hope he has a much better career because LSU will need more than one capable QB in the stable every year.

Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:03 pm to
there they are

7 INT's ran back for TD's.
Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:12 pm to
Thanks, Doc.

Not trying to expose Lee because I have nothing against him. It's just that his fans can't accept that he had a bad year and won't stop making excuses or blaming other players.

Robboob won't tell the whole story.

Snead, 10 INTs in 327 attempts.
Smelley, 15 INTs in 302 attempts.
Dick, 14 INTs in 357 attempts.
Lee, 16 INTs in 269 attempts.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34219 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

You just refuse to post Lee's stats, don't you.

I have no problem posting Lees stats, but the stats I posted were in reponse to this prized piece of ignorance:
quote:

Many other QBs in the SEC played the same defenses that Lee did, yet they didn't throw as many Ints


You were wrong. So for your comparison, and to show your stupidity yet again:

Casey Dick, Ark - 14 ints (11 games, Senior)
Chris Smelley, S Car - 15 ints (10 games, Sophomore)
Jevan Snead, Ole Miss - 13 ints (3rd yr Sophomore)
Colt McCoy, Texas - 18 ints (13 games, Sophomore)
JLee, LSU - 16 ints (11 games, Freshman)
Posted by tigeraj22
Member since Mar 2009
546 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:22 pm to
also i think the year mccoy threw all the picks he threw way more yards and td's than lee did... im not sure about the exact stats.. but i think i remember that... its not just the picks that matter... lee had terrible yardage most games... i think against tulane he put up like 90 yards passing.... im not saying one thing or the other... just throwing this out
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:23 pm to
quote:


Casey Dick, Ark - 14 ints (11 games, Senior)
Chris Smelley, S Car - 15 ints (10 games, Sophomore)
Jevan Snead, Ole Miss - 13 ints (3rd yr Sophomore)
Colt McCoy, Texas - 18 ints (13 games, Sophomore)
JLee, LSU - 16 ints (11 games, Freshman)



how was he wrong?
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:25 pm to
Let's look at the timeline here:

McCoy:

Fr - Really good
So - Disappointing
Jr - Extremely good

Lee:

Fr - Bad


However, Lee = McCoy because he three two TDs in a scrimmage!!!!
Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:26 pm to
I never said that Lee wasn't a RS Freshman. Which means that he wasn't right out of high school like Jefferson. Lee had a year to learn the playbook and practice.

I just said that he had a bad year and for people like you to stop making excuses for him.

He has plenty of time to get better and we need him to. You threw in the other QBs so I wanted you to tell the whole story by showing how it took Lee much fewer attempts to attain more INTs.

Throwing to the other team is a problem, Robboob. It's still happening in spring practice, but at least their going to the guy in purple and gold, right?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

Throwing to the other team is a problem


that's not lee's fault.

if the god damned offense would just learn to tackle, LSU would be okay.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34219 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

how was he wrong?

That no other SEC QB had int problems, or that JLee was the most inexperienced QB of the group, or that McCoy bounced back from int problems in one yr, but Lee cant?

Which wrong are you still needing me to point out for you?
Posted by deew
Member since Mar 2008
1082 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:30 pm to
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