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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:15 pm to LSUfan4444
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:15 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:
The purpose of this thread is to show LSU ranking low against other teams in conference, which is true. BUT, the stature of their players changes perception.
So, it's not what but who that defines control? So we should compare LSU v your perception of Les' control v other programs?
yes it's true many will never give Les a fair shake so you're mind is made up you don't need any facts?
quote:
Is this the only measuring stick of control for a head coach? yes or no?
So where has Les lost control more than these other coaches?
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 4:17 pm
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:15 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:You strike me as a person who thinks much more highly of his intellect than others do.
LSUfan4444
That may not ultimately be true, but it's just an observation. Point being, your argument is not working at all
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:16 pm to Jaydeaux
What should the measuring stick be if not for arrests?
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:16 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:
Comparing them directly to A&M helps your point, but different than this thread. The purpose of this thread is to show LSU ranking low against other teams in conference, which is true. BUT, the stature of their players changes perception.
What? Florida, UGA, Bama, A&M have all had guys arrested that were high profile and went on to be 1st round draft picks.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:16 pm to TheDoc
I'm pretty god damn sure according to ESPN and other media outlets LSU has more arrests than all other
SEC teams combined.
Your data must be flawed
SEC teams combined.
Your data must be flawed
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:16 pm to funnystuff
quote:
Point being, your argument is no working at all
It's completely foolish
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:17 pm to Jaydeaux
quote:
It's not but these guys that want to blame Les don't care
How is it not fair to judge Miles for discipline problems of players on his team under his watch?
I'm not blaming him at all for TM or what he did, but come on, he had major issues while playing for Miles at LSU. They were handles, but still issues that got alot of press which will lead to a perception.
You case should rely on the fact that perception is not reality, not that Mathieu's struggles shouldn't be attributed while playing for Miles.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:18 pm to TheDoc
quote:
He was arrested AFTER he was kicked off the team
Is this the only measuring stick of control for a head coach? yes or no?
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:19 pm to LSUfan4444
Miles isn't a god damned babysitter.
Rules are in place. Most things are handled internally.
3 arrests. 3.
In 3 years. All three coming from two bar fight incidents.
Rules are in place. Most things are handled internally.
3 arrests. 3.
In 3 years. All three coming from two bar fight incidents.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:19 pm to EarthwormJim
quote:
What? Florida, UGA, Bama, A&M have all had guys arrested that were high profile and went on to be 1st round draft picks.
Those don't count either. They aren't high enough profile, and aren't lsu players. So they don't help his argument.
I posted about this in a thread the other day on Poli board.
Florida set an NCAA record in 2007 with 11 arrests. But their Heisman Hero made Urban like a coach who recruits high character guys.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:20 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:
Is this the only measuring stick of control for a head coach? yes or no?
Tell me of your inside knowledge of the lsu football program
If we can't measure discipline by arrests, what do we measure it with?
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:21 pm to TexasTiger1185
11 arrests in 2007 for Florida and tebow won the heisman
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:21 pm to LSUfan4444
It's a pretty damn objective one. I'd say how many players get dismissed if we're talking LSU b/c Les actually gets rid of guys. Other coaches not so much.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:22 pm to Jaydeaux
quote:
It's a pretty damn objective one. I'd say how many players get dismissed if we're talking LSU b/c Les actually gets rid of guys. Other coaches not so much.
Boom
Les has had no qualms about dismissing players.
Perilloux was never arrested. He was kicked off the team though.
Mathieu was kicked off the team then Arrested.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:22 pm to TheDoc
quote:
Is this the only measuring stick of control for a head coach? yes or no?
Thing is, if you say no...it hurts you're argument. If you say yes, you're wrong.
You're in a real pickle here.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:23 pm to Jaydeaux
quote:
It's a pretty damn objective one. I'd say how many players get dismissed if we're talking LSU b/c Les actually gets rid of guys. Other coaches not so much.
I say this all the time. Les miles has made it pretty clear that he WILL kick off his best player.
He has set that precedent with guys like Perriloux and Mathieu
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:23 pm to LSUfan4444
God damn man, you're dumb as dog shite.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:23 pm to TheDoc
Those are not high profile guys
LSUFBPAOOC
LSUFBPAOOC
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:23 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:
You're in a real pickle here.
You're dumb as shite. I'm in no pickle you fricking moron.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:24 pm to TheDoc
quote:
It's a pretty damn objective one. I'd say how many players get dismissed if we're talking LSU b/c Les actually gets rid of guys. Other coaches not so much.
Boom
Les has had no qualms about dismissing players.
Perilloux was never arrested. He was kicked off the team though.
Mathieu was kicked off the team then Arrested.
Completely agree.
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