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Lets talk Screen Pass
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:35 pm
Why is LSU the absolute worst at running this simple play?
You would think that a team that regularly allows the defense into the backfield unabated would be able to use this ability to fool a team into falling for the screen. We do not.
Thoughts?
You would think that a team that regularly allows the defense into the backfield unabated would be able to use this ability to fool a team into falling for the screen. We do not.
Thoughts?
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:37 pm to scottfruget
It’s a legit question
Seems like every team sniffs out our screens with ease
Seems like every team sniffs out our screens with ease
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:44 pm to Tigerbait357
No one wants to explain this? It’s mind boggling.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:47 pm to scottfruget
Serous, did you watch how Bama defended the screens LSU attempted? Jennings and Miller blew up at least 4 of them. They played disciplined and quit going upfield and took on the back.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:47 pm to scottfruget
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this simple play?
It's not all that simple. There's a lot of moving pieces that have to come together at the proper time for it to be effective.
The QB has to invite the pass rush, giving time for his oline to release and set up down the field. It starts with Burrow selling the play and not telegraphing that its a screen
The RB has to escape the garbage and float out into open space to take the pass
LSU has done none of this well. Burrow hasn't put much touch on his passes to float them over the pass rushers. Many of them get batted down.
The o-lineman aren't all that athletic to release and set up the blocks. Watch the Saints line setting up screen blocking vs LSU, the Tigers are really sloppy.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:50 pm to scottfruget
It really is mind boggling. I can state that our defense better know how to defend screens because the aggies make a living off of them. and they run them to perfection.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 4:02 pm to LSU GrandDad
So how is this addressed? I have seen high school teams run it better
Posted on 11/4/18 at 4:18 pm to scottfruget
Personnel tells don’t help.
Especially with our wrs. Certain groupings you just know what is coming
2012 was a lowkey good screen team the like 3 times we ran screens
Especially with our wrs. Certain groupings you just know what is coming
2012 was a lowkey good screen team the like 3 times we ran screens
Posted on 11/4/18 at 4:25 pm to S
So you mean that we only run this with certain personnel in the game? We should be screening any and every chance we get to slow down the pass rush
Posted on 11/4/18 at 5:02 pm to scottfruget
quote:
Why is LSU the absolute worst at running this simple play?
You would think that a team that regularly allows the defense into the backfield unabated would be able to use this ability to fool a team into falling for the screen. We do not.
Thoughts?
Don't get confused with a defense that is in the backfield so often vs a defense that is built on speed (or with numbers) that gets in the backfield.
Bama was usually on rushing four, aggressively, but not just shooting gaps. That "mush rush" was effective keeping the QB in the pocket but applying pressure at all points.
Screens are good for a defense that is build on a speed rush, using that speed against the DL. Bama's DL is built on power and discipline.
Our screens were not effective because Bama's LBs and such were in position to sniff it out.
Maybe WR screens would have been better actually. Keep their front seven close to the line and attack their secondary and hope our receivers could find space. We have lost the WR screen part of the playbook.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 5:18 pm to scottfruget
Burrows lines up to close to line of scrimmage to fake handoffs or throw downfield, so when he backpeddles to draw in defense they know its a screen pass. Put him in shotgun 5 to 10 ft further back, gives him more time to see the field and receivers to run their routes.It also gives him a bigger pocket to step into.
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