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Let's discuss the "lack of execution" meme
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:07 pm
1) When your offense is predictable, plays get sniffed out. Oftentimes this gets erroneously dismissed as faulty execution.
2) 5 years of "lack of execution" means AT LEAST 2 separate groups of athletes, considering 4 playing years. Knowing this, how can we NOT say that it is CLEARLY a coaching issue? I am NOT willing to concede that LSU recruits the mentally challenged. These are kids who go on to get major college degrees, they are not 85 Jerrel Powe's.
For the engineers in the room, at what point do we stop blaming the bricks, and start blaming the architects?
2) 5 years of "lack of execution" means AT LEAST 2 separate groups of athletes, considering 4 playing years. Knowing this, how can we NOT say that it is CLEARLY a coaching issue? I am NOT willing to concede that LSU recruits the mentally challenged. These are kids who go on to get major college degrees, they are not 85 Jerrel Powe's.
For the engineers in the room, at what point do we stop blaming the bricks, and start blaming the architects?
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:09 pm to Roaad
Lets discuss some more because this is the first thread to be started like this one and there are not 15 other threads on the first page discussing this same exact thing.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:10 pm to PurpleAndGold86
cry about it
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:10 pm to PurpleAndGold86
but he went about it in a different way 
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:13 pm to Roaad
too much truth for the les miles defenders so they cry about it being a repeat thread
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:15 pm to Roaad
Not a frick is given by Les and his pumpers.
Shut up and just be happy we played in the Chicken Bowl.
Shut up and just be happy we played in the Chicken Bowl.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:15 pm to Roaad
Roadd,are you not more qualified to discuss the executon of the band or dance line as opposed to the football team? 
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:18 pm to heartbreakTiger
HBT,tell us how Miles should move Collins to LT. Daddy know you have his computer?
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:20 pm to heartbreakTiger
That is like blaming 2 classes of students for their inability to learn how to read.
At what sample size do you start saying, "well, there is only one common thread between the 2"
I refuse to accept that 2 highly recruited varied 4-star QB's (JJ and JL) were that incompetent. I know those 2 guys are polarizing, but look at it objectively. Both those were very talented and capable, and both looked like arse in our offense.
I know fans of one will never concede the other was pretty damn good before he got here, but the facts are there.
The only QB we have had that was worth a shite, got half his coaching from the previous staff.
At what sample size do you start saying, "well, there is only one common thread between the 2"
I refuse to accept that 2 highly recruited varied 4-star QB's (JJ and JL) were that incompetent. I know those 2 guys are polarizing, but look at it objectively. Both those were very talented and capable, and both looked like arse in our offense.
I know fans of one will never concede the other was pretty damn good before he got here, but the facts are there.
The only QB we have had that was worth a shite, got half his coaching from the previous staff.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:22 pm to Roaad
legit points IMO
I prefer this over the other BS spewed round here
lack of execution is a concern. those are monday-friday concerns, practice time etc
problem is none of us can see what happens in practice. do the coaches see that the team as a whole cannot execute things so they don't do them? If they cannot execute...well why? is the play too difficult (please I know, just saying) or are the words coming out of the coaches mouth not reaching the player??
are the players executing at practice then crap themselves in games? if so, why?
I prefer this over the other BS spewed round here
lack of execution is a concern. those are monday-friday concerns, practice time etc
problem is none of us can see what happens in practice. do the coaches see that the team as a whole cannot execute things so they don't do them? If they cannot execute...well why? is the play too difficult (please I know, just saying) or are the words coming out of the coaches mouth not reaching the player??
are the players executing at practice then crap themselves in games? if so, why?
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:26 pm to Roaad
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at what point do we stop blaming the bricks, and start blaming the architects
I think you meant engineers!!!!
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:27 pm to Roaad
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The only QB we have had that was worth a shite, got half his coaching from the previous staff.
This may be the most sensible sentence that I have read on this board in a long, long, time.
Great point right there!
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:28 pm to GABlueDog
I hate all of you
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:33 pm to Roaad
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The only QB we have had that was worth a shite, got half his coaching from the previous staff
True. We've done a poor job until recently recruiting talent at that position. I will say that Miles has tried to address this issue with the addition of Kragthorpe.
I do think Mett will be a very good QB and improved a good bit over the year, but was still inconsistent (as well as the O-line play).
But yes, the coaching needs to improve on the offensive side of the ball.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:33 pm to Roaad
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Roaad
The only QB we have had that was worth a shite, got half his coaching from the previous staff.
I would remind you that J Lee had the highest QB effeciency rating in the SEC last year. So I am not sure the you point is completely valid..
You are also talking about the staff that fielded Marcus Randall... Nothing to brag about there..
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:37 pm to EarthwormJim
miles did try to address the issue with krag and things that were out of his control happened. the problem is he should have fixed it this offseason but didn't do it. I was fine with the in house stuff that was brought upon by krags getting sick for last season but that should have been fixed after 1/9. I would like to see les clean his offensive staff out except wilson because we need wilson. Its not reasonable to want les fired because with his new contract its not happening so les needs to do what he does best and that is recruit, handle special teams and run the day to day stuff. He is a ceo type coach not a hands on guy. If les would let go of the o and allow a real oc to come in alot of the bitching about him would slow down.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:42 pm to heartbreakTiger
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If les would let go of the o and allow a real oc to come in alot of the bitching about him would slow down.
I doubt the bitching will ever slow down.
But I definitely think the offensive consistency suffered this year because most gameplans were made by Les, Stud, Krags. There were a few times when the gameplan worked almost to perfection and there were times when it looked like shite and nothing was done to correct it. Too many cooks in the kitchen.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:07 pm to Roaad
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1) When your offense is predictable, plays get sniffed out. Oftentimes this gets erroneously dismissed as faulty execution.
What I really do not understand is how we have gotten so predictable that we cannot get even one yard when we need it on third down. Is it the scheme, the formation, the speed of the play, line calls,???
Watch other games and see what I am referring to. I watched Stanford run the ball down Wisc's throat and they knew who was going to get the ball and pretty close to where. They did not have this problem. So why have we gone to a situation where five guys are meeting the ballcarrier at the handoff or there are so many people in the hole you couldn't squeeze a piece of broom straw through it.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 4:48 pm to GetmorewithLes
There is a difference between knowing pass/run, and knowing it is going to be a toss- dive, knowing what guard it's going behind, and have practiced against it all month.
They don't just know our tendencies, they know all our plays, and they know exactly when we'll call them.
They don't just know our tendencies, they know all our plays, and they know exactly when we'll call them.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 4:52 pm to Roaad
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For the engineers in the room, at what point do we stop blaming the bricks, and start blaming the architects?
yes, yes. i, for one, am absolutely shocked at your acumen. you know your bricks and that's why i admire you.
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