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re: Les Miles Winning Percentage at LSU
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:34 am to xHITMANx
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:34 am to xHITMANx
Urban Meyer's winning percentage overall is 84.2% (128–24).
Pete Carroll's winning percentage overall is 81.4% (83-19) This is after the 14 vacated wins.
Bob Stoops's winning percentage overall is 80.4% (159-39)
There are coaches in college football and basketball who always get their teams prepared to win. The fact is, the issue that you even brought this up speaks to a problem. That problem is that Les Miles's teams occasionally play down to their opponent.
It's the Dean Smith vs. Mike Krzyzewski approach to basketball. UNC had the best NBA ready talent in college basketball. But they seldom won the Championship despite all their talent because it wasn't harnessed. Duke (historically) has had lesser NBA ready talent, but were able to win Championships because Coach K has his players play every game like it's the Championship.
The issue is that as an LSU fan, it is frustrating
to see a team this talented lose to the likes of Ole Miss, or have Furman give us a run for our money, solely because the coach didn't do his job that week.
This team wins on talent most of the time. If they executed to their ability, ESPN would be talking about him the way they do with Saban because we would have a couple more National Championships than we do now.
It's the opportunity cost.
Pete Carroll's winning percentage overall is 81.4% (83-19) This is after the 14 vacated wins.
Bob Stoops's winning percentage overall is 80.4% (159-39)
There are coaches in college football and basketball who always get their teams prepared to win. The fact is, the issue that you even brought this up speaks to a problem. That problem is that Les Miles's teams occasionally play down to their opponent.
It's the Dean Smith vs. Mike Krzyzewski approach to basketball. UNC had the best NBA ready talent in college basketball. But they seldom won the Championship despite all their talent because it wasn't harnessed. Duke (historically) has had lesser NBA ready talent, but were able to win Championships because Coach K has his players play every game like it's the Championship.
The issue is that as an LSU fan, it is frustrating
to see a team this talented lose to the likes of Ole Miss, or have Furman give us a run for our money, solely because the coach didn't do his job that week. This team wins on talent most of the time. If they executed to their ability, ESPN would be talking about him the way they do with Saban because we would have a couple more National Championships than we do now.
It's the opportunity cost.
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:34 am to Milosh
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There are coaches in college football and basketball who always get their teams prepared to win.
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Bob Stoops
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:35 am to xHITMANx
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However if we drop the game against Iowa then what's the difference?
It would be a pretty big blow to our team's confidence with a new QB headed into next year. Plus the people calling for Miles' head will increase tenfold. A win gives us 10 wins and our QB of the future a win in his first start in a New Years Day bowl game. Plus the Under Armour game is the next day in... you guessed it... St. Pete. That's pretty big IMO.
People's issue with your post was that you claim to be talking just straight facts for discussion, but you automatically counted our next game as a loss.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:35 am to LNCHBOX
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Of course I think about what could have been. But there is a whole lot that actually was.
Yea I know.....we get to watch them every Sunday.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:37 am to saintforlife1
What good is a high winning pct. if you only keep making peach, outback or cotton bowl?
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:38 am to YouAre8Up
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if you only keep making peach, outback or cotton bowl?
You skipped 2011.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:39 am to PurpleAndGold86
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You skipped 2011.
And 2006.... and 2007...
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:41 am to LNCHBOX
Les Miles is the greatest coach in LSU history & we are lucky to have him at LSU.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:41 am to lsu2006
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It would be a pretty big blow to our team's confidence with a new QB headed into next year. Plus the people calling for Miles' head will increase tenfold. A win gives us 10 wins and our QB of the future a win in his first start in a New Years Day bowl game. Plus the Under Armour game is the next day in... you guessed it... St. Pete. That's pretty big IMO.
People's issue with your post was that you claim to be talking just straight facts for discussion, but you automatically counted our next game as a loss.
I just added the loss for record keeping sake. I went back and gave both cases for win/loss. But that is just one game. That's what I meant about not being a big deal in the OVERALL perspective.
From a One Game perspective,
HELL YES we need this win in a bad way.
This would do loads for Jennings and Spring Training. Not to mention Bowl Wins for recruits are a big deal too.
Let me repeat. I’m not a Miles hater. It’s just been a lack luster type of Post-Season(Loss to PennSt./Clemson/Bama on the big stage etc.,) the past couple years so with all the coaching changes I’ve been wondering what if we had someone else?
Didn’t mean to come off as a pessimistic Patty :p
Thanks for picking me up though…. you bunch of rude assholes lol!
This post was edited on 12/12/13 at 11:44 am
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:43 am to xHITMANx
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I’ve been wondering what if we had someone else?
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Didn’t mean to come off as a pessimistic Patty
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:45 am to PurpleAndGold86
DUDE! just wondering what another Coach would do with LSU's talent is being a downer. lol
C'mon give me a break.
C'mon give me a break.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:49 am to Milosh
Mac Brown at Texas - 157–45 (.777)
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:50 am to saintforlife1
I agree with your post 
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:51 am to LNCHBOX
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LNCHBOX
You just made my point. Bob Stoops has an awesome winning percentage. So what?
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:51 am to Milosh
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You just made my point.
Yea, Bob is really known for always having his team ready to play every single game.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:53 am to xHITMANx
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just wondering what another Coach would do with LSU's talent is being a downer
Would "LSU's talent" be at the level that it currently is without Les Miles' recruiting?
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:55 am to xHITMANx
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but I'm just not confident on what exactly do we have in Miles at the Helm.
A west, SEC, and national championship coach.
One of five current college coaches in the past 15 years to lead his team to two or more BCS title games.
The BCS coach who has more wins since 2005 than any other BCS program.
What the frick more do have to have slap you in the face?
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:55 am to xHITMANx
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the past couple years so with all the coaching changes I’ve been wondering what if we had someone else?
Well, LSU football has been around for well over 100 years and we've never had this level of success over the span of 8 years. I think that could lead you to your answer.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:55 am to xHITMANx
Ahhhh...I see the whole dysfunctional band is here today to spew their special kind of bromantic BS!!
Save your breath Hitman...you'll never have a worthy opinion as far as these 20-something yahoos are surfing the threads....theyre right and youre wrong.
If you dare to disagree with them they youre a (help me out here guys case I miss one):
pathetic/wretched/retarded/miserable/bleeding pussy/uneducated/sidewalk fan/never attended LSU/ungrateful.....blah blah blah ...you get the point?
Stop wasting your time and breath, its not worth it.
Save your breath Hitman...you'll never have a worthy opinion as far as these 20-something yahoos are surfing the threads....theyre right and youre wrong.
If you dare to disagree with them they youre a (help me out here guys case I miss one):
pathetic/wretched/retarded/miserable/bleeding pussy/uneducated/sidewalk fan/never attended LSU/ungrateful.....blah blah blah ...you get the point?
Stop wasting your time and breath, its not worth it.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:56 am to RedTigerRulz
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RedTigerRulz
Ah great, the resident brain damaged novelist is here.
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