re: Les Miles vs Bob Stoops First 8 Years

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You can't even talk anymore on this board without getting jumped by a "pumper." It's ridiculous. Some people don't have their heads in the sand, or in the sky. You can see things for how they really are without hating or worshiping the coach.

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I don't think it is the "pumpers" doing the jumping....but of course we each have our own perspectives.

You are pretty reasonable most of the time and I respect your point of view, but we disagree on how good a coach Miles is.

From my view, he has led us to an UNPRECEDENTED level of success for LSU. No other coach that has ever been here has kept us at such a high level of performance and national respect for such a long period of time. Not Saban, not Arnsparger, not Dietzel and not McClendon...no one!

So that being an incontrovertible fact, then what most of the Miles haters want is an even HIGHER level of all of that. The only guy doing it better than Miles is Saban and Alabama...and no other team or coach in modern CFB has ever matched what they are doing right now.

I don't think it is unreasonable to "WANT" to be what Bama is right now...but I do think it is unreasonable to "EXPECT" that type of performance.

At the end of the day, we all want do what Bama is doing, which is to be dominant, to be efficient on offense, to perform well on the big stage and win championships at a high rate.

The main difference between me and you is, I am willing to accept the occasional glitches and brain farts that comes with CLM's level of win/loss coaching abilities,