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re: Les Miles, Turner Gill, Tubbs
Posted on 12/16/08 at 4:29 pm to Ross
Posted on 12/16/08 at 4:29 pm to Ross
anyone on this board who thinks miles is a better coach than tubbs is a fricking idiot
tubbs would coach circles around miles
i was salavating at the thought of getting tubbs last year when miles was heading to michigan
i also love the unblinding love from the miles maniacs for les, but they forgot oh 1 year ago when les was frickING GONE, had we not luckily won seccg and had wvu fricking collapse.
miles was out the fricking door, leaving us just like nick saban supposedly did, yet nobody ever mentions this AT ALL
tubbs would coach circles around miles
i was salavating at the thought of getting tubbs last year when miles was heading to michigan
i also love the unblinding love from the miles maniacs for les, but they forgot oh 1 year ago when les was frickING GONE, had we not luckily won seccg and had wvu fricking collapse.
miles was out the fricking door, leaving us just like nick saban supposedly did, yet nobody ever mentions this AT ALL
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Posted on 12/16/08 at 4:30 pm to studentsect
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Funny how you know so little about Gill and Buffalo that you would ask something like that.
Earlier this year, Buffalo was winning 21-3 against Western Michigan with 3 minutes left in the third quarter. The rest of the game was 31-7 Western Michigan, and Buffalo lost in overtime. At home.
Box Score
isnt this the same as blaming les for a 21 point loss, which yall say is a bad thing to do?
Posted on 12/16/08 at 4:38 pm to Ron Mexico
Also, wasn't Tenn 5-6 that year? Blowing a 21 point lead at home with LSU talent isn't exactly the same as losing a lead with Buffalo, a program who two years ago was THE ABSOLUTE WORST TEAM in Division 1.
Like I asked earlier, could Les do for Buffalo what Gill did?
Like I asked earlier, could Les do for Buffalo what Gill did?
Posted on 12/16/08 at 4:52 pm to Ron Mexico
So Les went 7-5 so far this year with no QB and a terrible defense. It's obvious that he made a terrible decision with the Co-DC hire/promotion and the team suffered because of it. Kicking RP off the team and leaving us thin at the QB position was a good decision IMO but the Co-DC was a real bad one. So the Tigers go 7-5 and to the peach bowl..........
AU goes 5-7 and no bowlin for the plainsmen/tiger/war eagles............
What's Tubbs excuse and why is he a better coach than Miles for turning a better team than LSU in 2005 (coming off a perfect season in 04) into a worse team than LSU in 2008 with a 1-3 record against Miles? Why on earth would you rather him over Miles?
Hypotheticly, had we somehow hired Tubbs instead of Miles back in 2005, I think LSU would look a lot like AU does now.
AU goes 5-7 and no bowlin for the plainsmen/tiger/war eagles............
What's Tubbs excuse and why is he a better coach than Miles for turning a better team than LSU in 2005 (coming off a perfect season in 04) into a worse team than LSU in 2008 with a 1-3 record against Miles? Why on earth would you rather him over Miles?
Hypotheticly, had we somehow hired Tubbs instead of Miles back in 2005, I think LSU would look a lot like AU does now.
Posted on 12/16/08 at 4:54 pm to MRTigerFan
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Hypotheticly, had we somehow hired Tubbs instead of Miles back in 2005, I think LSU would look a lot like AU does now.
Posted on 12/16/08 at 4:56 pm to AlexLSU
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isnt this the same as blaming les for a 21 point loss, which yall say is a bad thing to do?
Not sure I understand the question. I'm not saying blaming Miles for a 21 point loss is necessarily a bad thing to do. But if you're going to do it, don't use that as a basis for comparing him to someone else who has done the same thing. For instance,
"Les Miles is a better coach than Spurrier, Saban, and Richt because they all lost to Meyer by double digits this year" makes just as much sense as saying "Gill is a better coach than Miles because Miles blew a 3 possession lead at home."
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Blowing a 21 point lead at home with LSU talent isn't exactly the same as losing a lead with Buffalo, a program who two years ago was THE ABSOLUTE WORST TEAM in Division 1.
Why the hell not? What makes a MAC team losing a 3 possession lead against another MAC team with 20 minutes left better than an SEC team losing a 3 possession lead to another SEC team with 30 minutes left? Who cares how bad Buffalo was 3 years ago, we don't need someone to turn a shitty program into something better. He lost to a terrible Kent State team that Buffalo was better than THIS YEAR. He blew a huge lead late against a MAC team THIS YEAR. If he has a MAC championship caliber team and loses to Kent State, wouldn't it seem likely that he could take a SEC championship caliber team and lose to Miss State? If he blows 15 point 4th quarter leads against other top MAC teams, wouldn't it seem that he could blow a 15 point 4th quarter lead against UF or UGA?
This post was edited on 12/16/08 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 12/16/08 at 5:34 pm to studentsect
You people are amazingly ignorant...Miles is a bad coach because of one bad season, yet everyone wants to praise Saban, who I do believe is a great coach. But didn't Saban lose a lead at home to ULM? Does that make him a second tier coach? And don't feed me this what have you done for me lately shite! Or maybe Pete Carrol is a bad coach for blowing a lead to Stanford?
Last time I checked, all 3 have a MNC and are considered good coaches. And Miles wins with Saban's recruits and Saban wins with Shula's recruits and so on....
Bottom line is Saban set us up and Miles is continuing the dominance. I, like most loyal and proud LSU fans, am okay with a 7 - 5 season due to getting rid of a cancer(RP) and anyone who argues that didn't play a big role in our lack of success is just here to start shite.
And to the poster that asked how a team beats Florida and then loses to UK and Arkansas, then how does a team beat talented teams like Alabama and Georgia, but then lose to Ole Miss....maybe Meyer should be on the hot seat, even though he is in the MNC like Miles was when he lost to a less talented team?
And I do like Gill, but what makes him any better of an option than Leavitt who brought USF back or maybe Johnson from Vandy?
As far as Tubbs is concerned, I think he is a better X's and O's coach than Miles, but I think Miles is heads and shoulders better recruiting than TT. As far as team managers, up until this year, I thought they were about even, but neither has done a great job this year! And the x-factor seems to be the class of Miles that TT lacks!
Last time I checked, all 3 have a MNC and are considered good coaches. And Miles wins with Saban's recruits and Saban wins with Shula's recruits and so on....
Bottom line is Saban set us up and Miles is continuing the dominance. I, like most loyal and proud LSU fans, am okay with a 7 - 5 season due to getting rid of a cancer(RP) and anyone who argues that didn't play a big role in our lack of success is just here to start shite.
And to the poster that asked how a team beats Florida and then loses to UK and Arkansas, then how does a team beat talented teams like Alabama and Georgia, but then lose to Ole Miss....maybe Meyer should be on the hot seat, even though he is in the MNC like Miles was when he lost to a less talented team?
And I do like Gill, but what makes him any better of an option than Leavitt who brought USF back or maybe Johnson from Vandy?
As far as Tubbs is concerned, I think he is a better X's and O's coach than Miles, but I think Miles is heads and shoulders better recruiting than TT. As far as team managers, up until this year, I thought they were about even, but neither has done a great job this year! And the x-factor seems to be the class of Miles that TT lacks!
This post was edited on 12/16/08 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 12/16/08 at 5:42 pm to AlexLSU
You people that would like to have Tubbs, you might not have to wait all that long. Tubbs will take a year or two off and see what happens with Miles at LSU. If the LSU job were to come available in the next few years, Tubbs will jump all over it.
Posted on 12/16/08 at 6:30 pm to Ross
Why do you laugh at my post? What reason do have to think Tubbs would have done better when he had a better team than LSU at the start of the 2005 season and has brought them further down than LSU this season since then? He's also 1-3 against Miles. Why is Tubbs a better coach? If its because LSU has better talent then Les Miles is better for bringing in better talent. If he's a better X & O guy then why did he go 5-7 this year and lose his job?
Posted on 12/16/08 at 7:16 pm to Kellydown
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2007 season:
If you have the talent to beat Florida and Auburn, you do not lose to Kentucky and at home to Ar-kansas.
Same could be said about Myer/Florida and their loss to Ol' Mrs. this year, yet that little dude is a football god this year...
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2006 season:
Super talented team yet under achieved
I said VALID, and the urine-stained concepts in the back corners of your mind do not apply.
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2005 season:
Do I need to say anything about the Tennessee game?
Can you say King Saban vs. UAB AT HOME????
Posted on 12/16/08 at 9:12 pm to TigerBandAlumnus82
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Turner Gill at Buffalo = Coaching in the SWAC. He's not even close to being ready for the SEC or big time college football. If you really would rather have him coach LSU over Miles or Tubberville, you're either in that Jesse/Al bunch or should be declared legally insane......
Get your facts right...Gill coaches Buffalo in the MAC Conference not the SWAC...and he will make someone a great coach. Auburn will regret the day they didn't hire him...
Posted on 12/16/08 at 9:15 pm to Ron Mexico
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anyone on this board who thinks miles is a better coach than tubbs is a fricking idiot
tubbs would coach circles around miles
When Miles has a season like Tubofshit had then you can come say stupid shite like this!
Posted on 12/16/08 at 9:40 pm to offshoretrash
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When Miles has a season like Tubofshit had then you can come say stupid shite like this!
You might not like Tubbs and you not want him as the LSU coach...but you can't deny that he is a good coach...Only coach to beat Bama 7 years in a row. 85 wins in the past 10 seasons. An undefeated season that should have given him at least a shot at the NC....
Posted on 12/16/08 at 9:50 pm to offshoretrash
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When Miles has a season like Tubofshit had then you can come say stupid shite like this!
We weren't as far from being 5-7 as you might think.
Posted on 12/16/08 at 10:03 pm to Geert Hammink_43
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We weren't as far from being 5-7 as you might think.
We were also closer to 9-3 than you or the rest of the Mile's haters would like to admit.
I know all I need to know about Tubs and I don't want him as our HC. Besides he is not gonna stick around for 3 or more years waiting on Les to leave.
Posted on 12/16/08 at 10:18 pm to offshoretrash
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We were also closer to 9-3 than you or the rest of the Mile's haters would like to admit.
Yet we are 7-5.
This post was edited on 12/16/08 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 12/16/08 at 10:26 pm to HTownTiger710
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But didn't Saban lose a lead at home to ULM? Does that make him a second tier coach? And don't feed me this what have you done for me lately shite!
Bama didn't have much talent last year. Still no excuse for ULM, though.
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Or maybe Pete Carrol is a bad coach for blowing a lead to Stanford?
He's a great coach, but the ease with which they dominate their conference causes let downs. His only flaw is he can't keep their heads straight all season. However, if you'd take Miles over Pete, you're either retarded or Les Miles.
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Last time I checked, all 3 have a MNC and are considered good coaches
Not counting LSU fans, probably 20% of fans that I see post, comment on TV, or encounter in real life think Les is a good coach. There's a reason everyone mocks him. Also, Larry Coker has a MNC. I hate bringing that up, but an MNC doesn't make you a good coach.
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And Miles wins with Saban's recruits and Saban wins with Shula's recruits and so on....
For the last time, SABAN WINNING WITH SHULA'S RECRUITS IS A COMPLIMENT. They aren't the same.
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Bottom line is Saban set us up and Miles is continuing the dominance.
Was continuing.
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I, like most loyal and proud LSU fans, am okay with a 7 - 5 season due to getting rid of a cancer(RP) and anyone who argues that didn't play a big role in our lack of success is just here to start shite.
Still would have lost 3/4 games though. Like I said, RP or no RP, it's the fashion in which we played this year.
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And to the poster that asked how a team beats Florida and then loses to UK and Arkansas, then how does a team beat talented teams like Alabama and Georgia, but then lose to Ole Miss....maybe Meyer should be on the hot seat, even though he is in the MNC like Miles was when he lost to a less talented team?
Meyer lost one, Les lost two (both as the #1 team in the country). He basically had 3 shots at a national title last year.
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And I do like Gill, but what makes him any better of an option than Leavitt who brought USF back or maybe Johnson from Vandy?
You can tell the kind of coach he is. He's a motivator on top of being a good coach. Leavitt is a good example, but I think he's strictly an x's and o's guy.
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As far as Tubbs is concerned, I think he is a better X's and O's coach than Miles, but I think Miles is heads and shoulders better recruiting than TT.
I agree, though Tubbs recruited against a harder scenario. If you want a fair look at it, look and see what Les did while at OK ST when he was the underdog in his own state like Tubbs was.
Posted on 12/16/08 at 10:31 pm to AlexLSU
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Still would have lost 3/4 games though. Like I said, RP or no RP, it's the fashion in which we played this year.
If you don't think QB play effects the whole team you don't know much about football. With RP here we lose maybe two games.
This post was edited on 12/16/08 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 12/16/08 at 10:41 pm to offshoretrash
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If you don't think QB play effects the whole team you don't know much about football. With RP here we lose maybe two games.
Two games is kind of funny, but the fact that you imply we could've lost less than two is absurd. Posted on 12/16/08 at 10:48 pm to AlexLSU
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Two games is kind of funny, but the fact that you imply we could've lost less than two is absurd.
Why do you find that "absurd"? We would have had a red shirt junior that won us the SEC champ game starting and you think he would have lost just as many games?
Yeah it's obvious you don't know a damn thing about football.
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