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re: Les Miles should have been fired at least 4 years ago.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:29 am to Dubaitiger
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:29 am to Dubaitiger
quote:Emotion-driven people like you don't make for good AD's.
I wanted him gone after the Bama part 2 NCG. He gave up and did not make any rational decisions whatsoever, and let down the team, university, fans, and the State. That quit in him and the team's division in the locker room were the last straw. I don't care about the undefeated regular season, he gave up on everyone and should have been shown the door
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:30 am to back9Tiger
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What's with you? You ramble with zero substance.
yeah that's ballcaster in a nutshell
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:30 am to Dubaitiger
quote:And then two years later he's hoisting a crystal ball in the Superdome. Just shut up.
Actually I wanted him gone after his first game against Tennessee where he had this huge lead, started playing prevent defense and prevent offense in the beginning of the 3rd qtr and Tenn came back and won the game. I knew we were in trouble at that time. You could see there that the man played not to lose and not to win
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:31 am to El Magnifico
quote:And then he coached LSU to an SEC title and a national title game two years later and had the best record in the history of the program. Just stop.
I thought he should have been fired after the 2009 season.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:32 am to ballscaster
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Emotion-driven people like you don't make for good AD's.
i'm almost a robot and there is very little objective evidence to support miles' continued tenure
if you basically have the exact same issues your entire tenure (offensive philosophy and playcalling) and another major consistent hole (QB), and you cannot or will not adapt and fix the hole?
that's a serious, structural issue
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:32 am to dukke v
quote:How would you know to fire him if not for past results?
You keep brining up the past like it's relevant
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:32 am to SilvaSpear
When he played LSU with Arkansas and got that ridiculous raise I was pretty upset.. and I was a Miles defender back then.
I would have absolutely called his bluff at that moment.
I would have absolutely called his bluff at that moment.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:33 am to ballscaster
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And then he coached LSU to an SEC title and a national title game two years later
and ended the season with one of the most soul crushing and terrible displays of coaching that has basically broken the spirit of the fanbase. on top of refusing to change within the game, he basically quit late in that game which is unacceptable
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:33 am to ballscaster
Wouldn't fire him then, but absolutely would not have ponied up extra money for him when he was already making a ton of money.
He is not worth the kind of money he is making.. as well as his OC.
He is not worth the kind of money he is making.. as well as his OC.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:34 am to beauchristopher
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When he played LSU with Arkansas and got that ridiculous raise
yup we all need to remember that the only reason why we have such an albatross of a contract around our necks is because Les played LSU and leveraged leaving late (And fricking over LSU) to get that money
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You're one of the best here, and that's ridiculously and objectively false. Since the national title game, LSU has won 37 games while playing in the toughest conference. Are there 10 schools who have won more in that time? Are there even five?
i'm almost a robot and there is very little objective evidence to support miles' continued tenure
Sorry, but when your record is top tier and against a perennially tough schedule, and when you've proven before that you can go from 8 wins to 13 in three years, you don't fire that.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:37 am to beauchristopher
quote:We are all worth what people are willing to pay us.
He is not worth the kind of money he is making
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:39 am to ballscaster
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He has a better record in the last five years than Saban had at LSU.
Sabans 5 years included a SEC title and a NC.
But whatever, soon the 2011 season won't count in your five year spiel so you'll have to come up with some other new and ridiculous stat. I had originally thought you were trolling but that was giving you too much credit.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:42 am to ballscaster
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Since the national title game, LSU has won 37 games while playing in the toughest conference. Are there 10 schools who have won more in that time? Are there even five?
we haven't won our division, conference, or made a playoff/title game appearance
have we even made a BCS bowl in that time frame?
we don't have to be a machine EVERY year like Bama, but consistently so-so/good seasons are not enough. i think all the fans would take a bad year here or there as long as we got some elite years. once jimbo's QBs left we've had 1 elite year and we even have had some mediocre years thrown in
and Miles refuses to change and we get the same results. if you want to defend miles you're basically saying you're happy with not challenging for our conference or making a big bowl game/the playoffs and that's fine with you. that's great, but some fans want more
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:42 am to SilvaSpear
OP, you are 100% correct about Miles.
But watch and see, the pollyanna types will want to build a statue for him once he finally leaves.
But watch and see, the pollyanna types will want to build a statue for him once he finally leaves.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:45 am to biglego
quote:Unfortubateky you're probably right. It would take 12 wins to keep up that pace, and that's a tall order. Miles has a tougher SEC than Saban did while he was here.
soon the 2011 season won't count in your five year spiel so you'll have to come up with some other new and ridiculous stat
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:46 am to ballscaster
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:It's been better than that. Don't sell it short. There aren't 10 better programs over the last four years.
consistently so-so/good seasons
Obviously I'm not arguing that the offense doesn't have issues, but that argument works on its face. You shouldn't shortchange the actual accomplishments to make that argument.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:49 am to ballscaster
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It's been better than that. Don't sell it short. There aren't 10 better programs over the last four years.
maybe in total wins
but there are more than 10 programs who have gotten into the playoffs and played in a BCS bowl that aren't LSU
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Obviously I'm not arguing that the offense doesn't have issues
that's like saying that North Korea may have a food supply issue
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You shouldn't shortchange the actual accomplishments to make that argument.
we're teetering in neutral outside of the elite every year
if that's OK with you then fine
i think we should be more consistently in the elite
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:53 am to ballscaster
So, when In your utopian world, would you feel enough is enough to let Miles go? Youre diluted in the fact that miles, at this point, 12 years into his tenure, hasn't stonewalled the entire program. You've had 2-3 years out of 12 of any semblance of decent QB play. But, like politics, no one is going to make you change your mind.
This post was edited on 9/5/16 at 8:55 am
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