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re: Les Miles being treated unfairly?

Posted on 7/13/10 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by RANDY44
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 3:49 pm to
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2008, 2009.. both are very close to 2005-2007 talent wise.

Outside od QB play in both seasons and the horrid defensive coaching tag-team of '08 I'd agree that the overall talent was much the same. Unfortunately coaching talent also plays into the mix. See Malleveto.
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 3:55 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 3:58 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 3:58 pm to
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The alabama sports media started with the "miles is a moron" crap when he was winning in 2005-2007 to try and get Saban back into our recruiting grounds and we have played right into their hands with the constant program bashing that is going on.



No, that label followed him from Ok. State. Winning the NC in '07 caused people to question it.
Posted by XbengalTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:01 pm to
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Outside od QB play in both seasons and the horrid defensive coaching tag-team of '08 I'd agree that the overall talent was much the same. Unfortunately coaching talent also plays into the mix. See Malleveto.
Team chemistry and player leadership are just as important as talent in the ultra-competitive SEC but the X-Box generation that "know" football but never actually played football are clueless as to what goes into building a championship team. You guys are quick to blame everything on coaching even though you have zero access to the inner workings of the LSU program.
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:02 pm to
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Outside od QB play in both seasons and the horrid defensive coaching tag-team of '08 I'd agree that the overall talent was much the same. Unfortunately coaching talent also plays into the mix. See Malleveto
05-07 > 08-09 talent wise,not even close.
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:03 pm to
Do you have inside access?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297072 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:04 pm to
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SEC but the X-Box generation that "know" football but never actually played football are clueless as to what goes into building a championship team. You guys are quick to blame everything on coaching even though you have zero access to the inner workings of the LSU program.



Simply the canned response of the morons don't know the difference and have a litany of excuses for the underachievement that has been LSU football the past two seasons.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7083 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:04 pm to
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No, that was started by the Alabama media/fans to try and get us to undermine our own program and it is beginning to work.


This is absolutely one of the top five most idiotic statements I have every read on this site.

So, let me get this straight...Miles' buffoon like persona is not due to anything the man has said or done, it is due to a media conspiracy from Alabama.

Okay, fine...everything is clear now.
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:07 pm to
why wasnt miles a bufoon from 05-07(not that i believe this bama bs)
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7083 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:17 pm to
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why wasnt miles a bufoon from 05-07(not that i believe this bama bs)


He was...everyone just referenced it as "lesticles" or "fear the hat" (even though he wears it like a dunce cap).

Based on the players he inherited and the coaching staff that was in place, my mother could have won during those years and she picks her favorite quarterbacks based on how good looking they are.
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:19 pm to
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Team chemistry and player leadership are just as important as talent in the ultra-competitive SEC but the X-Box generation that "know" football but never actually played football are clueless as to what goes into building a championship team. You guys are quick to blame everything on coaching even though you have zero access to the inner workings of the LSU program.


So true! They make these drive by attacks but can't be specific. They don't understand chemistry,experience or the human equation.These same experts were polishing JJ's knob this time last year.Now they love Jimbo Fisher,but check the archives,90% of them blamed Fisher for everything. Beating Oklahoma twice with much less talent is much more impressive than anything Saban did at MSU. Nick beat LSU and Texas without their starting QBs.
You notice I never get an answer when I ask if Bama would have won SEC with JJ at QB.
Coaching takes place on the practice field not on X-Box.
Takes a lot of guts to call a coach stupid on a message board.
Posted by XbengalTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:23 pm to
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Simply the canned response of the morons don't know the difference and have a litany of excuses for the underachievement that has been LSU football the past two seasons.
I will put my football experience, knowledge and lineage against yours any day of the week.
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

Les Miles being treated unfairly?

quote:


why wasnt miles a bufoon from 05-07(not that i believe this bama bs)




He was...everyone just referenced it as "lesticles" or "fear the hat" (even though he wears it like a dunce cap).

Based on the players he inherited and the coaching staff that was in place, my mother could have won during those years and she picks her favorite quarterbacks based on how good looking they are.

More X-Box ignorance! Why did the great Pete Carroll lose with the best talent in the country?
Posted by LSUfoosball
Member since Nov 2006
4425 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:26 pm to
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The rest of the nation


Ridiculed him after all those wtf calls he made!
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7083 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:27 pm to
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You notice I never get an answer


I think that says more about you than anyone else on this site...
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7083 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 4:29 pm to
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More X-Box ignorance!


That is your term sparky...I like that name for you. It sounds nice and simple, like you.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 5:09 pm to
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No he inerited an elite program which is no longer elite.


Another great point!!!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297072 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 5:13 pm to
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quote:
Simply the canned response of the morons don't know the difference and have a litany of excuses for the underachievement that has been LSU football the past two seasons.

I will put my football experience, knowledge and lineage against yours any day of the week.



From what I have seen on here, you will lose if you assume all others here only know football through "X box experience."
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 5:21 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 5:18 pm to
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Takes a lot of guts to call a coach stupid on a message board.


I have NEVER called him stupid Nor could I do his job. I just don't like the direction the team is going. And for $4 mil a year I should get better results.
Posted by mtnhighTiger
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since Jan 2010
4349 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 5:26 pm to
You know, it's funny that all you suck-holes want to bash the man for his coaching abilities....yet none of you are willing to step up and put your resume in for consideration.

I don't want to hear the same tired arse, lame excuses and stats that everyone like to provide in favor of this or in favor of that.....

Bottom line....you think you can do better? Step up. If not....STFU and GTFO.

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