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Les Miles and Lloyd Carr relationship

Posted on 1/11/11 at 5:22 pm
Posted by Patch
Westlake, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/11/11 at 5:22 pm
Does anyone know why these two don't like each other? Why was this a road block in 2007 and maybe even 2011?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 5:30 pm to
Stuff I was reading on the Michigan board basically said the following:

1) Les was hired as offensive line coach at Michigan by Bo Schembechler. He came from Colorado. Both he and Carr were on that staff. Carr was the DC.

2) Three years later, Bo resigned, and was replaced by Gary Moeller, who had been Bo's OC.

3) Sometime during Moeller's tenure (1990-94) Les and Lloyd had a falling out. Some people insinuated that Les had slept with Gary Moeller's wife. I don't know what that has to do with Lloyd Carr, though.

4) What is known is that when Lloyd Carr became the next coach in 95, Miles was told to look for another job, which he found as OC for Okie State. He then went on to work for the Cowboys, then returned to Okie State as HC. We know the rest.

5) The next time these two had anything to do with each other whatsoever was during the Jai Eugene recruitment. I've read that Lloyd Carr basically accused Les of dirty recruiting against him. Les apparently revealed to Jai that Lloyd Carr had Parkinson's disease or something like that, and wouldn't be UM's coach for much longer anyways.

The truth is that Jai had his own reasons for staying in Louisiana (his child) and even if Les did negatively recruit (which I doubt) it probably didn't impact Jai's decision.

Anyways....those are the stories.

Posted by MichiganTiger
Where Global Warming is Welcomed!
Member since Dec 2004
7895 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 5:31 pm to
There is a rumor that miles slept with one of the other assistant coach's wife while they were both coaching at university of michigan. Apparently it was a budy of coach carr's.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
8330 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

There is a rumor that miles slept with one of the other assistant coach's wife while they were both coaching at university of michigan


That's a pretty intense statement/rumor
Posted by Patch
Westlake, TX
Member since Jan 2010
2661 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:15 pm to
So miles cheated on Cathy, his wife???
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Member since Dec 2004
7895 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

So miles cheated on Cathy, his wife???



rumor...unfounded...I'm uncertain if miles was even married then
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