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re: Les Gives Reason For Fake Punt
Posted on 1/2/09 at 8:53 am to genuineLSUtiger
Posted on 1/2/09 at 8:53 am to genuineLSUtiger
Thats part of football. It didn't bother me!!!
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 8:54 am to genuineLSUtiger
it's the offenses job to get 1st downs.
it's is up to their defense to stop the offense.
it's is up to their defense to stop the offense.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 8:54 am to beauchristopher
Serious question - why is it a big deal when LSU tries the fake punt, in order to control the ball (and the eventual margin of victory) - but not a big deal for GT to call timeouts with 2 minutes left in the game so THEY can make a meaningless score and affect the margin of victory?
If the objective is just to end the game, then GT should have just run the ball up the middle to take time off the clock.
It's not like we were playing North Texas and rubbing it in - this was a ranked, favored team, and they were just as concerned about the margin of victory as we were. They should have defended the fake possibility.
If the objective is just to end the game, then GT should have just run the ball up the middle to take time off the clock.
It's not like we were playing North Texas and rubbing it in - this was a ranked, favored team, and they were just as concerned about the margin of victory as we were. They should have defended the fake possibility.
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 8:55 am
Posted on 1/2/09 at 8:57 am to NorfolkVATiger
You don't like it, stop it. Bottom line. It's a competition. As Mike Singletary said a few weeks ago: "We are not a charity. Our job is to punch people in the mouth". 
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:07 am to genuineLSUtiger
Damn some people can wallow in the stupidest shite. I'm referencing the people who are complaining about the punt and claim Les is classless.
I don't care why LSU ran it. I thought it was a great play and was glad to see it executed so perfectly. As soon as they ran it, I thought "damn, that was a sweet play."
LSU finally rose up and finished a team off this year. No fumbles, no major blown assignments, solid execution on both sides. Think about all the sloppy play we've seen in bowl games so far. A bunch of fumbles and ints. LSU didn't have those!
Why waste time debating one play after the game we saw. I know, because this is a message board and we can debate anything!
What was the last classless move/play committed against LSU? Ramsey's chop block on Dorsey? Tubs and Aubie smoking cigars at midfield? Who keeps these events cataloged? No one.
If you're of the classless mindset, then just say "Georgia Tech took cheap shots on JJ and we fake a punt with the game in hand." One trumps the other and its over!
I don't care why LSU ran it. I thought it was a great play and was glad to see it executed so perfectly. As soon as they ran it, I thought "damn, that was a sweet play."
LSU finally rose up and finished a team off this year. No fumbles, no major blown assignments, solid execution on both sides. Think about all the sloppy play we've seen in bowl games so far. A bunch of fumbles and ints. LSU didn't have those!
Why waste time debating one play after the game we saw. I know, because this is a message board and we can debate anything!
What was the last classless move/play committed against LSU? Ramsey's chop block on Dorsey? Tubs and Aubie smoking cigars at midfield? Who keeps these events cataloged? No one.
If you're of the classless mindset, then just say "Georgia Tech took cheap shots on JJ and we fake a punt with the game in hand." One trumps the other and its over!
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:12 am to Stuttgart Tiger
This Horse is dead, get over it ! ManBear go be a Ga Tech fan!! 
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:17 am to FAN4LSU
Better to run the play now and see if it works than to try it when the score is 24-21 and you need it win the game and find out it doesn't work. Also to all you idiots who think disclosing this play will never let it work again. Miles has more than just 1 fake punt call and the reason fake punts usually work is because they catch the D off guard.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:18 am to prplngldtigr
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so we'll run from the other side next time...do you REALLY think its that big a deal? Do you really believe an opponent will work on the fake punt formation we ran in the Chick fil A bowl?
A big deal...who knows....a "heads-up" to future oponents..Yes...
and if you think they will not keep it in their notes and be prepared for it next time,
you are kidding yourself and have never coached anything.
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Better to run the play now and see if it works than to try it when the score is 24-21 and you need it win the game and find out it doesn't work. Also to all you idiots who think disclosing this play will never let it work again. Miles has more than just 1 fake punt call and the reason fake punts usually work is because they catch the D off guard
not true, although it sounds good.
there are no guarantees in that a trick play will work/not work one time and that it will do the same again later.....
all I know is this and is a fact...
the more you expose your playbook, the weaker it gets.
SURPRISE is a huge element in trick plays.
EX look at Miami with their WILDCAT formation...
the first week, they wiped out the opponent,
the second week, it barely worked, now everyone is expecting it and even running some version of it.
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:23 am to rbdallas
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A big deal...who knows....a "heads-up" to future oponents..Yes...
and if you think they will not keep it in their notes and be prepared for it next time,
you are kidding yourself and have never coached anything.
hahahha...youre the ignorant one here, not me...multiple fake punts exist and they are situational....i notice you didnt address that part of my post....why is that?
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 9:28 am
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:30 am to prplngldtigr
no, you are one ignorant and rude individual.
probably around 25 and you know it all....
but
obviously you do not have enough class or intelligence to hold a conversation.
and BTW,
I never said that a play WOULD NEVER work again....
I said that the more it gets viewed, the more likely it is that it will not work.
probably around 25 and you know it all....
but
obviously you do not have enough class or intelligence to hold a conversation.
and BTW,
I never said that a play WOULD NEVER work again....
I said that the more it gets viewed, the more likely it is that it will not work.
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 9:32 am
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:31 am to rbdallas
answer the other part of my post and prove your point
why is it youre so convinced we run this same play AGAIN?
why is it youre so convinced we run this same play AGAIN?
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 9:34 am
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:33 am to prplngldtigr
quote:
answer the other part of my post and prove your point
there is nothing to prove,
you missed my point completely, or probably just wanted to push yours...
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:36 am to rbdallas
there is absolutely a point to prove. YOU think running this play was a mistake because now opponents can prep for it. I say it doesnt matter because we have MULTIPLE fake punts and they are used in certain SITUATIONS. YOU seem to think that an opponent can take this play, study it and stop it the next time we run it...well, sir, what if we DONT run that play and the situation is DIFFERENT?
My point is this play doesnt matter when it comes to future opponents.
what is YOUR point?
My point is this play doesnt matter when it comes to future opponents.
what is YOUR point?
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:45 am to beauchristopher
A fake punt is not a trick play it is a play that you use when you think in might work.If you will fake a punt with a 32 point lead this just gives you an advantage at that time in the game. So i guess we could save it for the spring game.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:46 am to prplngldtigr
After the way we lost to Arkansas and the way GT beat Georgia, it was the right call.
It kept the ball in our hands and took time off of the game clock so that GT could not mount a comeback.
GT's fans, players, and the media need to get over it.
It was the right call for LSU.....
It kept the ball in our hands and took time off of the game clock so that GT could not mount a comeback.
GT's fans, players, and the media need to get over it.
It was the right call for LSU.....
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:47 am to rbdallas
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it is dumb to use up a trick play and disclose it when you are leading 35 to 3.
So what you are saying is that we would run the exact same fake punt against, say, Bama next year when we are down by 3 on our own 45 mid 4th qtr.
Different return scheme, different scenario, different freaking everything. Fakes are not ever run when you NEED them, they are run to keep your foot on the throttle when you DO NOT NEED them.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:49 am to maddvector
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It was the right call for LSU.....
i like the call and i couldnt care less about what the biased media, fairweather fans and any of the opposition feel about it one way or the other.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:49 am to rbdallas
quote:
EX look at Miami with their WILDCAT formation...
the first week, they wiped out the opponent,
the second week, it barely worked, now everyone is expecting it and even running some version of it.
The playoff bound Dolphins, that Miami? Didnt look to gimmicky in their must win on the road last week.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:50 am to maddvector
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:51 am to eyefortigers
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The playoff bound Dolphins, that Miami? Didnt look to gimmicky in their must win on the road last week.
exactly...even they have realized that the element of surprise is gone.
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