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Lee Theory - Did the Lee family ask for this?
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:18 am
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:18 am
If Lee had grade issues that came as a result of his poor reaction to the Bama-01 game, meaning he did miss significant classes and exhibited immature behavior not becoming of a 5th year Sr leader &/or had a form of a mental shutdown threatening his eligibility and academic performance.....
Then, what are the chances that CLM and Lee's father spent some time discussing this between Bama-01 and his reported/assumed eligibility restoration, and came up withe the following joint decision?
- Bench Lee to allow him to focus on his academics so that he could retain eligibility (and possibly to graduate as planned in Dec which may be the case).
- Do not play Lee in anything of significance thereafter, especially against Bama in the BCSNCG for risk of him performing poorly against Saban's NFL-like defense yet again, which could reduce his already slim chances of getting drafted to zero.
- Upon Lee's completion of his Fall semester and LSU season, get Lee working 100% on his dream of impressing in a different uniform where he could have a fresh start with no risk of seeing him on the biggest stage with everyone watching do poorly again. No more film of Lee versus Bama would be possible. Bama-01 chalked up as just a bad game.
- Give Lee a talk and encourage him to put the past behind him in his public statements to show he can take the high road, giving his public image and NFL application a boost. Lee really does seem to love LSU, so this also softens the blow to the LSU nation and CLM (as opposed to speaking out negatively about them both), and speaks of his character and willingness to be the ultimate team player - to send a message to NFL scouts.
If this was the agreement, then Miles surely could not say so in the public so as to retain the agreement with Lee's father. He would not mention the grades, he would not mention Lee being unable to manage himself maturely in the weeks after 11/5, and he would not play Lee in honor of the agreement. He would not before the game or aftet the game. He probably would not tell the team, as that would make it a certainty that some player would leak it. This allows Lee to have ended the season with one of the best QB ratings in the SEC at 152 and an 9-0 record as a starter (and 8-0 for games mostly played), to get new coaching in the All Star game in Tuscon, to get a fresh start, to get his grades/degree, and to show his wonderful character.
I know this is hard to believe, but we are talking about a highly unusual situation and about CLM, so it calls for a highly unusual theory. This all adds up.
This would then be the story of Lee's Sr year...He completed 104 of 167 passes for 1,306 yards this season with an 8-0 record for his primary games played. Lee threw for 14 touchdowns with just 3 INT's, finishing with a QB record of 152.
Flame away...
Then, what are the chances that CLM and Lee's father spent some time discussing this between Bama-01 and his reported/assumed eligibility restoration, and came up withe the following joint decision?
- Bench Lee to allow him to focus on his academics so that he could retain eligibility (and possibly to graduate as planned in Dec which may be the case).
- Do not play Lee in anything of significance thereafter, especially against Bama in the BCSNCG for risk of him performing poorly against Saban's NFL-like defense yet again, which could reduce his already slim chances of getting drafted to zero.
- Upon Lee's completion of his Fall semester and LSU season, get Lee working 100% on his dream of impressing in a different uniform where he could have a fresh start with no risk of seeing him on the biggest stage with everyone watching do poorly again. No more film of Lee versus Bama would be possible. Bama-01 chalked up as just a bad game.
- Give Lee a talk and encourage him to put the past behind him in his public statements to show he can take the high road, giving his public image and NFL application a boost. Lee really does seem to love LSU, so this also softens the blow to the LSU nation and CLM (as opposed to speaking out negatively about them both), and speaks of his character and willingness to be the ultimate team player - to send a message to NFL scouts.
If this was the agreement, then Miles surely could not say so in the public so as to retain the agreement with Lee's father. He would not mention the grades, he would not mention Lee being unable to manage himself maturely in the weeks after 11/5, and he would not play Lee in honor of the agreement. He would not before the game or aftet the game. He probably would not tell the team, as that would make it a certainty that some player would leak it. This allows Lee to have ended the season with one of the best QB ratings in the SEC at 152 and an 9-0 record as a starter (and 8-0 for games mostly played), to get new coaching in the All Star game in Tuscon, to get a fresh start, to get his grades/degree, and to show his wonderful character.
I know this is hard to believe, but we are talking about a highly unusual situation and about CLM, so it calls for a highly unusual theory. This all adds up.
This would then be the story of Lee's Sr year...He completed 104 of 167 passes for 1,306 yards this season with an 8-0 record for his primary games played. Lee threw for 14 touchdowns with just 3 INT's, finishing with a QB record of 152.
Flame away...
This post was edited on 1/14/12 at 10:03 am
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:21 am to therocketscientist
That seems like a very reasonable and well thought out theory. That is probably exactly the way it happened.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:24 am to therocketscientist
I prefer the aliens theory.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:28 am to therocketscientist
Well it's nice you put so much thought into this. That being said....what an awful theory.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:29 am to therocketscientist
There is no way the collective IQ on this board is any higher than 12.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:31 am to therocketscientist
quote:I'm sure that's exactly what happened, dumbass.
therocketscientist
Lee was the backup. He started when Jefferson was suspended and not up to speed. He performed his duty with extreme proficiency, and for that I, and Tiger Nation thank him for. When the coaching staff felt like Jefferson was ready, he took back his job as starter, and never looked back. That's it. There isn't any conspiracies. There isn't any meetings between Les and Lee's father. Nothing. Please just accept the fact that the back up QB returned to being the back up QB when the 3 year starter returned.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:31 am to therocketscientist
Let it go man. It's over now. LET IT GO!!!
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:31 am to BilJ
quote:
Well it's nice you put so much thought into this. That being said....what an awful theory
A theory has to be thoughtful and logical. If it is these two, then it usually is not awful. It may be wrong, and we'll never know btw, but awful? You agree it is thoughtful. I'm curious, do you consider it not logical also? What is so awful about it?
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:31 am to therocketscientist
its real simple...lee was never head and shoulders better than jordanson. coaches felt jeff jordanson was the qb for the offense they wanted to run. dont really know if something behind the scenes happened for lee to go into the dog house, but it definitely seems possible and/or likely. this is all we know and or able to guess. having said this, lee's career by default trumps jordanson. did his family ask for this kind of treatment? what...a chance to play qb at LSU during one of our best seasons? a full scholly and a edumacationez? women all over his noodle? a strong love and following amongst fans and a good portion of the tiger-nation? listen, this dude will now go down in tiger history as the guy who should of gone in, and not the guy who should have come out! it may be a blessing in disguise. bottom line is, if he was unfairly treated, whether it was deserved or not is officially irrelevant. lee proved his worth to all of us more than he could in any other way....by staying on the bench why we all got to see what jordanson, and mess lyles to some extent, were really made of.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:33 am to therocketscientist
I think there was a second shooter from the Indian Mound
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:35 am to therocketscientist
quote:
A theory has to be thoughtful and logical. If it is these two, then it usually is not awful. It may be wrong, and we'll never know btw, but awful? You agree it is thoughtful. I'm curious, do you consider it not logical also? What is so awful about it?
No, its wrong. You're an idiot if you believe the HC of a college football team is sitting down with a players father discussing playing time
Oh yea, btw, by "well thought out" he means LONG WINDED AS frick
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:36 am to therocketscientist
story of Lee's Sr Season = he got fricked by Miles for the short side option clueless wonder boy
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:36 am to Braband
quote:
its real simple...lee was never head and shoulders better than jordanson. coaches felt jeff jordanson was the qb for the offense they wanted to run. dont really know if something behind the scenes happened for lee to go into the dog house, but it definitely seems possible and/or likely. this is all we know and or able to guess. having said this, lee's career by default trumps jordanson. did his family ask for this kind of treatment? what...a chance to play qb at LSU during one of our best seasons? a full scholly and a edumacationez? women all over his noodle? a strong love and following amongst fans and a good portion of the tiger-nation? listen, this dude will now go down in tiger history as the guy who should of gone in, and not the guy who should have come out! it may be a blessing in disguise. bottom line is, if he was unfairly treated, whether it was deserved or not is officially irrelevant. lee proved his worth to all of us more than he could in any other way....by staying on the bench why we all got to see what jordanson, and mess lyles to some extent, were really made of.
I've heard that a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
In this case, not so much.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:39 am to Paulu
quote:
story of Lee's Sr Season = he got fricked by Miles for the short side option clueless wonder boy
Pretty good cliff notes version of season
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:39 am to 7thWardTiger
quote:
Please just accept the fact that the back up QB returned to being the back up QB when the 3 year starter returned.
Please accept the fact that the "backup QB" proved to be the better player than the "3 year starter" ACCEPT when we needed some running from that position. (Two post-season invites by NFL advisors)
Less than 100 yds of O in the last two, and biggest, games of the year by "the 3 yr stater".
Nuff said.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:42 am to 7thWardTiger
quote:
Lee was the backup. He started when Jefferson was suspended and not up to speed. He performed his duty with extreme proficiency, and for that I, and Tiger Nation thank him for. When the coaching staff felt like Jefferson was ready, he took back his job as starter, and never looked back. That's it. There isn't any conspiracies. There isn't any meetings between Les and Lee's father. Nothing. Please just accept the fact that the back up QB returned to being the back up QB when the 3 year starter returned.
Well, at least my theory is logical. Your statement does not add up. Miles played more than one QB multiple times. Once again, you are among the simpletons not to show an understanding of the difference between playing Jefferson to start and most of the game versus playing him the entire game regardless of the performance or circumstances. These 2 things are not the same, but you are one of many to just ignore that. As such, there has to be one of two things in-play. 1) there is an actual Lee-related reason he did not play even in the second half or 2) Miles is a man of very poor character and/or coaching to not switch horses. Your explanation of playing just JJ does not add up. You are the moron if you think it is simply that. Or, either you or Miles are a moron, that is. It has to be one or the other, cause your simpleton explanation is inadequate.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:44 am to hybrid3
U mad brah?
Lee performed well this year, no doubt about that. But he still was the back up. In 3 years he never beat Jefferson out, and if not for suspension, his pt would have been mop up duty all season. Simple as that.
Lee performed well this year, no doubt about that. But he still was the back up. In 3 years he never beat Jefferson out, and if not for suspension, his pt would have been mop up duty all season. Simple as that.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:46 am to therocketscientist
quote:
Well, at least my theory is logical
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:49 am to 7thWardTiger
quote:
Well, at least my theory is logical
Seriously. Quit diverting. You may not agree with it, but do you even understand the concept of logic? It is spot on logical. If not, quit hiding behind insults and provide where it is not logical, and what you think logic is.
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