re: Lee/Jefferson combo is better than the singular of either

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Jefferson inteceptions 2009 & 2010 = 17
Lee interceptions 2009, 2010 & 2011 = 3

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Hey, I count 17 ints missing somewhere. How did that happen? You must've left a year out. Sneaky fricker!

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You do realize that JL is ranked #51 in the nation in passer rating/efficiency...and that AJ Mccarron is ranked #64...right?

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Who gives a shite what Bama's QB rating is? It's got nothing to do with LSU's passing performance.

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You guys get so caught up with total yards...you forget about efficiency, TD/INT ratio...etc...8/1.....scoring 38 a game...etc.....i guess just not quite enough wisdom to understand yet. Oh, before you say anything, JJ last year had an efficiency/passer rating of #100 in the nation.....so Lee is only 49 spots ahead of him so far in passer rating.....2 TD's ahead in scoring, and 20% ahead in red zone scoring...lol.

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You totally, and conveniently, look at how pathetic the defenses are that these numbers are put against. WGAF in that scenario.

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You think your Wisconin team will be explosive if they get to play LSU in the NC? lol...I'd be willing to be that lsu gets AT LEAST its averages.

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Have you even watched Wisconsin play? Do you not recognize Russell Wilson, who was impressive at NC State, is head and shoulders above JL or JJ? His passing efficiency is 216.89, how does that fricking stack up in your pea brain since you are enamored with JL's? 13/1 TD/Int, woooo. Have you happened to notice the skill and size of the UW O line, have you watched those huge frickers play? Have you ever notice how many quality OL UW puts into the NFL? Have you watched their RB's and receivers? UW's D might not be as good as LSU, but the game would be epic, and UW would not be shut down. You are a ranter of the nth degree and totally lack objectivity.

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Is LSU's schedule to date been easier or harder.....careful, I already know this answer.

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I do too, but if you want to argue that LSU's OL and QB's are better than UW's this season then we can glove up. Wilson's talent is there for anyone to see passing or running.

Let's put it this way, UGA and AU put TD's up against MSU. Where was the red zone scoring machine during that game?

ETA - LSU's passing game is still very sporadic, the receivers are as much a problem as the QB's, but the QB's are far from top tier.

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Then answer the question.....you ranted and raved about how our opponents weren't that good. Come on hack, answer it:

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Not a hack bro. Wasn't that number 8 NE that got taken to the woodshed last weekend, lackluster D or not? Who of note has WVU beaten? Who of note has UO beaten? Those are the games you are hanging your hat on. JL continues to throw questionable passes into double and triple coverage that would be intercepted vs quality secondaries. Where is that in this all mighty efficiency rating that someone keeps pointing to. Why doesn't he have 13 TD passes?

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Why doesn't he have 13 TD passes?

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218 rushes
108 passes plus approximately 25+ drops in 5 games.

13 tds.
has 7 Tds and one easy throw to Ruban Randle dropped TD.

So he is off 6 tds on 108 passes when the team obviously runs twice as much

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He had a horrible October.

However, he bounced back brilliantly in November and the bowl game.

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You keep bringing this up, but even you look at November on, his Quarterback Rating is 153.2 That's his best 5 game stretch.

In that 5 game stretch, JJ had 5 TDS and 2 INTs passing, and 2 rushing TDs. That was when he was "HOT".

Against equal or better competition through 5 games, Lee's rating isn't much different at 140 and he has 7 TDs and only 1 INT.

So in his BEST 5 game stretch last season, JJ is no better than Lee has been all season as far as scoring TDs.

We'll need JJ and he likely improved over the offseason. That said, praise during passing drills means absolutely nothing when you have proven last year that it won't transition to the field of play CONSISTENTLY.

We'll see how Les uses both QBs. Nothing we say is going to change Les' mind, but let's not make revisionist history with JJ's performance last year.

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last year wisconsin averaged a zillion points a game in the big 10 during the regular season....in the bowl game they scored in the teens i believe.

I seem to recall a few years ago (twice now) that a certain team from oklahoma had a team averaging 50 points a game in the NC game against LSU and Florida.....I seem to recall if you averaged them up, they may have averaged 17 in the two losses to the SEC. Point made.

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It's f'king ridiculous on both sides and it's sickening, trite, and makes certain individuals look petty an foolish. They are in every threa posting stats which are cherry picked to support their delusion

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Very true. I wish I could help myself trying to rebuke some of their BS with other stats, but both JJ and Lee have had their good and bad. We've seen Lee so far this season, but not JJ.

The hate on both sides is just stupid. My issues with JJ have been his attitude, but he's always had a ton of potential. With the right coaching he could be a very good QB. Lee is the same thing. A weak QB coach, a HC and OC that have completely differing philosophies and too much loyalty/lack of balls have damaged both QBs. I just want to see it play out before claiming one is better than the other.

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Lee saved your son from losing that game, along with the tenn and fl games last year.

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We've debunked that myth many times. But, hey, don't let the facts stop you from repeating your bullshite

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No, I'm pretty sure the Tiger faithful, except for you, belief that without Lee, we lose Tenn. and Fla. Bama is certainly questionable. Just because you place your selective stats on here, doesn't change the reality.

JJ vs. Tenn.- 15 QB rating. Plus not calling for the snap on the last play. Nobody doubts that Lee playing the whole games wins this one easily. Did I mention a 15 QB rating. Yes. Yes I did

JJ vs. Fla - 6 series; 1 TD. Lee led us to the 1st TD. Lee led us to the 2nd TD. Lee led us on the final TD drive. Lee 5 series; 3 TDs. Had Lee had more series, LSU wins by a bigger margin.

JJ vs. Bama - Of 17 3rd down attemps, he only threw 2 completions. Bama had just gone 77 yards in 2:04, and would have gotten the ball back with almost 3 min. left. Only needing a FG