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re: Laser, optical, electronic strike zone

Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:39 pm to
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So if a machine can do your wife better than your sorry lil pecker, so be it ?

You're losing the argument so bad you've become focused on the guy's pecker. That's sad.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:39 pm to
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Also, as far as I am concerned I have never seen an umpire make a call that was wrong.


Is this some way of saying that if an umpire makes the calls it's always correct because his judgement should be infaliable...or are you honestly suggesting that you've never seen an umpire calls a ball or strike that was clearly the opposite?

I'm REALLY hoping you're going for the first one...
Posted by Ragged Tiger
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:40 pm to
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So if a machine can do your wife better than your sorry lil pecker, so be it ?
This is pretty much an admission that you have lost the argument and are resulting to third grade name-calling.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:41 pm to
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So if a machine can do your wife better than your sorry lil pecker, so be it ?


you really keep making yourself look like a fool with each post
Posted by ShowMeTheMoney7
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:41 pm to
No it is an example of how just because a machine being able to accomplish something more efficiently doesn't mean it should be adopted...
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:41 pm to
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So if a machine can do your wife better than your sorry lil pecker, so be it ?


Congrats on the worst first 9 posts in the history of the internets.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:42 pm to
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And if you tards keep gradually changing these elements, then one of these days you aren't going to have the original game anymore....do us a favor and stick to checkers or go fish...i don't think even you tools can try to mess those games up...


slippery slope fallacy
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:42 pm to
You suck at analogies, really.
Posted by Ragged Tiger
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:45 pm to
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slippery slope fallacy
Word.

Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10676 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:45 pm to
The same type of digital, sensory technology could be similarly implemented to impeccably determine whether base runners are safe or out.

Baseball is an analog sport in a rapidly evolving digital world.
This post was edited on 6/25/09 at 4:47 pm
Posted by PnG Exsanguination
About 5 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Jul 2008
2768 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:45 pm to
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So if a machine can do your wife better than your sorry lil pecker, so be it ?




You probably should just :e-suicide: now. I'm thinking alter though. You've been around for a while.
Posted by Tigreat
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2008
2441 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:46 pm to
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Is that what the rule book says?


No it isn't. But I think that the fact that each umpire is different adds an element that the players have to adjust to.

I understand the argument for it, but I don't entirely understand your arguments against the current system. Is it because not every call is perfect? Also, what is it in baseball that the umpire's calls take away from the players?
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:49 pm to
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But I think that the fact that each umpire is different adds an element that the players have to adjust to.

Suppose LSU has to adjust more than Texas because the referee has an agenda, or because he subconsciously favors one team over another? Should that remain part of the game?
Posted by Tigreat
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2008
2441 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:51 pm to
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Is this some way of saying that if an umpire makes the calls it's always correct because his judgement should be infaliable...or are you honestly suggesting that you've never seen an umpire calls a ball or strike that was clearly the opposite?

I'm REALLY hoping you're going for the first one...

It is the first one. The umpires are going to make calls that you don't agree with. That happens in all sports. But remove that human element I can guarantee you that baseball, which is already suffering badly, will fall apart. Hell, as a fan half of the fun of being at a baseball game is yelling at the ump for calls that you didn't agree with. Calls will not always go your way, that is with everything in life.

Also, in my opinion, I want to keep baseball as technology free as possible. Don't get me wrong, it works out great for football when determining distance, catches, tds, etc., but outside of determining whether or not the hit was a hr, I don't want a computer interfering with my favorite sport.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:51 pm to
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Also, what is it in baseball that the umpire's calls take away from the players?


Consistency of officiating. I'm not sure I understand why ALWAYS getting EVERY call correct if it were possible and would not interfere AT ALL with the flow of the game would be worse for the game...unless you made your living as an umpire.

How would having a constant, rigid, never altering strikezone be bad?
Posted by Tigreat
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2008
2441 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:54 pm to
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Suppose LSU has to adjust more than Texas because the referee has an agenda, or because he subconsciously favors one team over another? Should that remain part of the game?




This is my favorite argument against umpires. "Well, the umpire obviously had an agenda so he picked his favorite team to win and screwed the other one over."
Posted by Ragged Tiger
Member since Jun 2009
2392 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:55 pm to
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Baseball is an analog sport in a rapidly evolving digital world.
Best post of the thread.

The real question is do you want to perserve baseball in its traditional or purist form (it has already evolved some) or do you want to modernize it.

I believe it will eventually be modernized. Kicking and screaming, but eventually. I think it might have to if it wants to continue to be a viable medium of entertainment.
Posted by ShowMeTheMoney7
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
770 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:55 pm to
why are you assuming umpires have agendas?

Not being confrontational, just actually curious.
Posted by Tigreat
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2008
2441 posts
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:56 pm to
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Best post of the thread.

The real question is do you want to perserve baseball in its traditional or purist form (it has already evolved some) or do you want to modernize it.

I believe it will eventually be modernized. Kicking and screaming, but eventually. I think it might have to if it wants to continue to be a viable medium of entertainment.


Agreed. I'm in favor of keeping baseball in it's current state.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:57 pm to
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FrisceauxTiger



<---and I'm not laughing with you
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