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re: Laser, optical, electronic strike zone
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:01 pm to FrisceauxTiger
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:01 pm to FrisceauxTiger
Completly disagree. An umpire's job is not to get in an argument with the coaches/managers of teams. They are to call strikes/balls based on defined rules of the game. If those rules can be better interpreted by a machine, that's fine. The human element of the game is the players.
Anyway, the ref can still be responsible for calling foul/tips, interference, and hit batters. Hell they can even yell out the call once the machine tells them what it is.
I'm sure the rant can come up with any number of ludicrous reasons this would be a bad thing.
Anyway, the ref can still be responsible for calling foul/tips, interference, and hit batters. Hell they can even yell out the call once the machine tells them what it is.
I'm sure the rant can come up with any number of ludicrous reasons this would be a bad thing.
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:01 pm to otowntiger
Curt Schilling says NO!
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:02 pm to Ragged Tiger
Its a game, not a science project. If you want uniform results with no human element (as the game was intended), play a video game.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:02 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
quote:
Its a game, not a science project. If you want uniform results with no human element (as the game was intended), play a video game.
/thread
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:03 pm to FrisceauxTiger
quote:
I actually had to explain that.
Yes...you did, because your first post on the subject had nothing to do with that.
FWIW, your suggestion that an official's emotional state should play a part in how he calls a game sounds like something my wife would suggest. I take that back...she'd never suggest anything like that. She's knows better.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:04 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
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ZackMorrisPhone
quote:Thats why its called an analogy. Go work on your serve and volley douchebag.
They both deal with a human element, but are two completely different things.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:05 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
quote:
Its a game, not a science project. If you want uniform results with no human element (as the game was intended), play a video game
Do you favor this concept when it comes to bad calls in football that can be overturned by replay? Should the human element be allowed to cost a team a game if there was a way to get the call right?
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:05 pm to Tigerdew
quote:Certainly by removing the human element out of strike calling, the batter and pitcher would then be devoid of emotion and would uniformly respond like digital automatons.
quote:
Its a game, not a science project. If you want uniform results with no human element (as the game was intended), play a video game.
/thread
The rant is so fricking
Y'all probably think instant reply has ruined sports.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:05 pm to FrisceauxTiger
quote:
Thats why its called an analogy
It was one that didn't make any sense
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:06 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Don't the majors already do this with QuesTec? IIRC they found that it leads to umps calling a much more uniform strike zone.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:08 pm to GeauxTigerTM
quote:Replay =/= electronic strike zone.
overturned by replay
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:11 pm to FrisceauxTiger
quote:I've played. And anyone who thinks "bad calls are a part of baseball" is mentally retarded. Anyone who thinks that getting every call right is bad for baseball is an idiot.
removing the human element from the calling of balls and strikes would destroy part of what makes baseball great. an umpire's emotions, his feel for the pace and character of a particular game influence his strike zone, like it or not. the image of a batter with the catcher and ump behind the plate is iconic. its American. I think it would be pretty ridiculous to change that and I doubt few would disagree. especially those of us that have actually played baseball.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:12 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Football fields encompass 22 players over 100 yards of field at an accelerated speed of play an obstructed views....in baseball an umpire leans over a catcher's shoulder to call a ball or strike. Part of the game is for pitchers as well as betters to adjust to the umpires calls. It is PART OF THE GAME, something you wouldn't understand.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:13 pm to Ragged Tiger
quote:
Replay =/= electronic strike zone.
No, but replay ~ electronic strike zone.
Similar concepts with technology reducing poor calls.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:15 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
quote:ladies and gentlemen, our first retard has openly come forward.
It is PART OF THE GAME,
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:16 pm to Lou
want to elaborate...?
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:16 pm to Ragged Tiger
quote:
Replay =/= electronic strike zone.
Does this mean not equal? If so, I'd agree...but they are fairly similar and a way to illustrate that getting the call correct can be more important than some esoteric nonsense about human elements.
I have no idea if it would be workable...but if it WAS, I'd have no problems with an electronic system that enabled both the hitter and pitcher to know that they are both working with the same strikezone. That each pitcher is getting the same strike zone each half of the inning.
FWIW, I really don't have a dog in this fight. I always hated pitching with an umpire behind the plate that refused to give me the full strike zone (especially above the belt) and that could be fixed with a system like this. Of course, you'd lose the outer edge calls...but I'd have given that up for sure to get the top half of the strikezone back from umpires who seemed to take it away.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:18 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
quote:
It is PART OF THE GAME, something you wouldn't understand.
Why wouldn't I understand this?
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:20 pm to Lou
quote:
I've played.
uh huh. I don't know anyone who has ever played who thinks computerizing the method of calling balls and strikes in order to have fewer "bad calls" would be better for baseball.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:22 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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It is PART OF THE GAME
"It is part of the game" is a dumb argument when it can so easily be made NOT a part of the game.
Essentially, the guy making it WANTS the umpires to f*ck up.
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