re: Laser, optical, electronic strike zone

I meant the different size ballparks, not the strike zone.

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FWIW, your suggestion that an official's emotional state should play a part in how he calls a game sounds like something my wife would suggest. I take that back...she'd never suggest anything like that. She's knows better.

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That shite's crazy.

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removing the human element from the calling of balls and strikes would destroy part of what makes baseball great. an umpire's emotions, his feel for the pace and character of a particular game influence his strike zone, like it or not. the image of a batter with the catcher and ump behind the plate is iconic. its American. I think it would be pretty ridiculous to change that and I doubt few would disagree. especially those of us that have actually played baseball.

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Couldn't agree more

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Uh ... actually two in a row.

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Counting to three is difficult?

LA007:

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But, you're throwing at the wrong target.

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Strike One.

TigerBait1127:

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your post is a major fail

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Strike Two.

Just Me:

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How about three posts in a row telling you that you just struck out?

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Steeeerike Three. Yer out.

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But hey guy, I'm happy to be of service to bring a little joy and satisfaction to the lives of a couple message-board-judies with umpteen-thousand posts.

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Two swings and misses with the "judies" and post count attacks. Try to keep your eye on the ball. I'd hate to see you strike out . . . again.

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So yes, you're so witty and clever and all that.

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Now. Now, you're getting somewhere. But I feel kind of awkward with my dick in your mouth. Perhaps you should rethink this tack.

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My point is: there is plenty of the "human element" in baseball and the game is simultaneously concrete and fluid - the fluidity being variation in ballparks.

Is it fair that a team can load up on lefthanded power if they have a short rightfield porch in their home park?

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See, that's the thing. No one is complaining about variations in ballparks because both teams face the same park during the game. There is no inconsistency during the game; there isn't even the chance of inconsistency. Neither of which can be said for the strike zone during a game.

Moreover, you can see the dimensions before the game even starts. You know what the dimensions will be for all of the games played in that stadium long before you ever go there. Of course, no one has a real advantage because everyone plays half of their games at someone else's park. And, of course, everyone can build a park with a short rightfield porch.

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So umpires having slightly different, but consistent, strike zones is part of the charm of the game.

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You are begging the question. Strike zones are not always consistent during a game. Sometimes, they change from pitch to pitch. Moreover, you shouldn't have to go through a batter or several to find out what that game's "consistent" strike zone is going to be. And I don't think anyone thinks it's charming to play a game when you don't know what the parameters are before you play, and those parameters may constantly change throughout the game.

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I think the vast majority of fans through the ages see that and realize that.

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That is your opinion, and bootstrapping your opinion to your opinion doesn't make it so. Damn, You just struck out . . . again.

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So you message-board-commandos can just wrestle with it all you want to.

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We will, and when you want to add a solid post, you can too.

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If all this uniformity is so important, then why not have ballparks the exact same dimensions in the outfield? Why is it fair that in some parks, a long drive to a 400 foot center field is an out, but in another park it's a homerun?
No one bitches about that.

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That's because whatever size the ballpark is, the fences are the same distance for both teams, for every single pitch. If a 380 foot blast down the left field line is a homer for the Cubs in the top of the 3rd inning, it will also be a homer for the Nationals in the bottom of the 7th.

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An electronic eye calling balls and strikes in some attempt at "uniformity"?
Nope.
Major Fail.

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The only thing that would "fail" in this hypothetical are people who want more bad calls in baseball. While I can sympathize with the desire to see major league baseball suck even more so that it will eventually disappear altogether, I think the better course would be to try and make it worth keeping. Like, say, by trying to REDUCE the amount of bad calls.

[quote]I could see it too. Too bad a "floating, dynamic" strike zone does not exist by the rules of baseball. I would settle for the enforcement of the rules in leu of a mechanical ump. Now, hows that for fair, sonnyboy.




Could you be anymore assbackwards in your comment to me? I think not. I don't give a damn about apologies.. but read the whole thread

I did and just what am I supposed to apologize for, sonnyboy?

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You are priceless, perhaps worthless.

And why is that sonnyboy? Because I want the rule of the strike zone enforced without it being "interpreted" by every umpire according to their whim of the day? If you are looking for worthless, take a look in the mirror, sonnyboy.

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And why is that sonnyboy? Because I want the rule of the strike zone enforced without it being "interpreted" by every umpire according to their whim of the day? If you are looking for worthless, take a look in the mirror, sonnyboy.

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I got carried away. I'm sorry, Pappy.