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re: L. Landry in for Mahtook

Posted on 6/23/09 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by King Joey
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Posted on 6/23/09 at 3:24 pm to
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so you should never pinch hit for anyone if they are having a bad game?

you realize someone can be hitting .350 but in a 0-10 slump?
No, there are absolutely times when a guy with a great average should be pulled because he's in a slump and the team would be better off with someone else out there. But when the guy goes 2-3 with an rbi in his next three at bats, that obviously wasn't one of those times. Mainieri obviously recognized that last night wasn't one of those times he should be pulled. You obviously did not. Don't feel bad, I didn't recognize it, either. Only difference is that I don't have a problem accepting that Mainieri picks up on things that I don't. In fact, I'm damned happy that he does.
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who gives a shite what his season average is, or if he was 2-6 which was better than his season average
Well, the scoreboard obviously gave a shite since one of those 2 drove in the run that was the difference in the game. Why you don't seem to care that he got two hits in three at bats after the point you claim he should have been benched is quite mysterious, though. I'm pretty sure virtually everyone else in the baseball world agrees that those two hits were pretty significant.
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coaching is all about feel within that game.
And Coach Mainieri felt -- within that game -- that Mikie should be left in because he would be likely to come through. You felt that he wouldn't. He did come through. How can you not see that this makes Mainieri right and you wrong?

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 3:29 pm to
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now explain why he pinch hit for Nola, when he knew our defense would be shot to shite for extra innings.
How am I supposed to explain that? I'm not a baseball coach, and I'm damn sure not one as good as Mainieri. As you've already said, coaching these issues is about feel for the game. Mainieri obviously felt that keeping Mikie in and pinch hitting for Nola was the right thing to do. We won, so there's a pretty strong argument that he was right. Mahtook had two hits including the clutch game-winning RBI hit, so there's an even stronger argument that keeping him in was the right decision.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287917 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 3:29 pm to
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If Mahtook needs a pinch hitter, then Schimpf certainly did


lol
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 3:30 pm to
This thread is worthless, but priceless ranter whinning.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287917 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 3:31 pm to
ahhh, go figure, you ignore the Coleman analogy. Guess you cant explain that either.


"but hey, his season ERA is 2.50....he had to buckle down at some point, right"?????






come on king ranter, your long essays can not mask your cluelessness.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287917 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 3:33 pm to
buncha immature college geeks
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 3:38 pm to
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ahhh, go figure, you ignore the Coleman analogy. Guess you cant explain that either.
In what way? Do you not understand the term "coaching"? Mainieri made all these decisions, and he made them for reasons I do not and have not ever claimed to fully understand. You, on the other hand, are steadfastly insisting that doing the opposite of what Mainieri did in regards to one of those decisions -- whether or not to bench Mahtook -- was the right move. And after the point where you claimed that was the right move, Mahtook went 2-3 at the plate with an RBI, and made at least two more plays in centerfield without an error. So either:

A) you expected him to go 2-3 with an RBI at the plate and continue to make plays in the outfield without error, and you disagreed with Mainieri that this would be a desirable result; or

B) you did not expect him to do that, in which case you were wrong.

So, which was it? Were you wrong, or did you believe the performance he ended up having was a bad thing?

Posted by ike221
Loo A Vul
Member since Aug 2006
13856 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 3:44 pm to
Les I wouldn't even bother arguing with these people about anything much less baseball

Most of these guys in these rant threads are old fricks who don't know shite or preppy up class college kids / frat fricks that think they know all sports.

I find it funny they'll argue YOU about baseball

This post was edited on 6/23/09 at 3:45 pm
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