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re: Kevin Faulk Drug Charge
Posted on 7/9/08 at 5:02 pm to Corndog
Posted on 7/9/08 at 5:02 pm to Corndog
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The funny thing to me is how many people defend smoking weed because they either smoke or like it in some form or fashion. I personally don't think it makes Kevin a bad person and would not condem him for it but the simple fact that it is illegal makes it wrong to do and he shouldn't go unpunished. He will do what they ask him and move forward with his life and career but it's just a shame how many people defend something that is illegal because they like it.
Driving drunk is illegal but I know people that have done it and will do it again, these same people bitch when they get a DWI and have to go to jail and pay the fines. How stupid can you be to do something that you know is against the law and just because you like it get mad that you get in trouble or that other people get in trouble for it?
Actually most people who defend smoking weed do so because they're rational and therefore recognize the absurdity of marijuana's illegality. Comparing marijuana possession to drunk driving is ridiculous and you should be ashamed for sharing that little thought with the rest of the board.
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 5:05 pm to Hideo Nomo
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The funny thing to me is how many people defend smoking weed because they either smoke or like it in some form or fashion
I dont smoke. I think its silly. Might as well make alcohol illegal.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 5:15 pm to Hideo Nomo
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Comparing marijuana possession to drunk driving is ridiculous and you should be ashamed for sharing that little thought with the rest of the board.
??? i thought it was a pretty good comparison lol
Posted on 7/9/08 at 5:21 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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??? i thought it was a pretty good comparison lol
How is it in any way a good comparison? What about simply smoking marijuana endangers anyone's life? Hell, it doesn't even endanger the smoker's life.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 5:26 pm to Hideo Nomo
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Actually most people who defend smoking weed do so because they're rational and therefore recognize the absurdity of marijuana's illegality.
I think that is absurd.
The large majority of defenders are smokers themselves.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 5:28 pm to moneyg
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I think that is absurd.
The large majority of defenders are smokers themselves.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 5:33 pm to Hideo Nomo
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The two are not mutually exclusive.
I agree. But, that's not what you said. You said:
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most people who defend smoking weed do so because they're rational and therefore recognize the absurdity of marijuana's illegality.
And, I think that is absurd.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 5:36 pm to Hideo Nomo
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How is it in any way a good comparison? What about simply smoking marijuana endangers anyone's life? Hell, it doesn't even endanger the smoker's life.
dude all i kno is i dont do it.
not mad at you if you do.
didnt really like that K. Faulk got caught with it. At a normal job, if u get drug tested and fail, u get fired. Dont kno y pro athletes cant wait till there careers are over till they smoke instead of jeopardizing that much money.
i didnt think that smoking weed and going 71 mph n a 70 was a good comparison either.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 5:40 pm to moneyg
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I agree. But, that's not what you said. You said: And, I think that is absurd.
I'd argue that the majority of people who support legalization of marijuana are infrequent users at best, although that argument is simply based on personal experience. What was implied in the post that I responded to was that most people support legalization of marijuana only to make their habits more convenient.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 6:30 pm to moneyg
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most people who defend smoking weed do so because they're rational and therefore recognize the absurdity of marijuana's illegality.
And, I think that is absurd.
It is entirely reasonable to think that a lot of rational people who realize that there is nothing wrong with marijuana and that it shouldn't be illegal might also decide to smoke it. That doesn't mean the fact that they're rational isn't the reason they think it should be legal.
I own a car, but never use it because I live in downtown DC with easy access by walking, Metro or cab to anything I want, and parking is a bitch. In fact, I'm thinking of just getting rid of it and not even having a car. I would oppose a law outlawing the ownership of cars. The reason I would oppose it isn't because I own one (since it isn't even important to me), but because it would be a stupid fricked up law.
By the same token, there are bound to be quite a few people who oppose the criminalization of marijuana because it's stupid, but also happen to smoke a little weed every now and then. They oppose the law not because the weed is so important to them or because they like smoking it so much, but because it's a stupid law that crowds our justice system with needless backlogs of cases, channels harmless and potentially productive citizens into the criminal justice system's destructive effects and serves no useful purpose for our society.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 6:33 pm to Corndog
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The funny thing to me is how many people defend smoking weed because they either smoke or like it in some form or fashion.
I don't smoke it nor do I like it at all. I don't even like being around my friends when they smoke it. But I damn sure support the legalization of it.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 6:33 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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i didnt think that smoking weed and going 71 mph n a 70 was a good comparison either.
It was 10 times better than comparing it to drunk driving, but only because speeding 1 mph over the limit is so much less dangerous than driving drunk. In fact, BOTH speeding AND drunk driving (which endanger others) are worse than smoking marijuana (a victimless crime), regardless of the levels of punishment assigned to them by a government that was idiotic enough to outlaw marijuana in the first place.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 7:12 pm to Nuts4LSU
apparantly everybody who smokes weed just does it n a room and never leaves the house. if u were to smoke then go driving i think it would be the same as drunk driving. they both make u impaired.
thats y i thought that was a good comparison.
thats y i thought that was a good comparison.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 7:14 pm to Nuts4LSU
I have to laugh at the notion that it's okay to break a law if you don't agree with it. I also have to laugh at the notion that the government did this to an unwilling populace. Voters (both smart and stupid) elected the persons who outlawed pot. If you don't like a law, there are ways to change it. We are not living in Nazi Germany and outlawing pot is not comparable to prohibiting Jews from marrying Gentiles.
I don't want to see any LSU alum getting bad press. The impressions of the world are easily shaped by stories like this.
I don't want to see any LSU alum getting bad press. The impressions of the world are easily shaped by stories like this.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 7:16 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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if u were to smoke then go driving i think it would be the same as drunk driving. they both make u impaired.
And there's already a law against driving under the influence. It's not illegal to drink, but it's illegal to drink and then drive. There's no reason it should be any different for marijuana.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 7:23 pm to wrlakers
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I have to laugh that so many of you think pot is okay, but crack wouldn't be. I really don't see a difference.
Then you are incredibly ignorant or you are terminally stupid. Yes both are illegal. However one is the most addictive substance known to man and ruins lives by the bushel. The other is proven less harmful than either tobacco or alcohol. Those who continue to spout the "reefer madnes/devil weed" line only show their stupidity.
I am proud to say that I succesfully defended nearly 80 pot cases during my time before the bar. I used to laugh at asst DA's sputtering and red faced with hysteria in the court when the judge or jury sided with my arguments.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 7:23 pm to wrlakers
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I have to laugh at the notion that it's okay to break a law if you don't agree with it. I also have to laugh at the notion that the government did this to an unwilling populace. Voters (both smart and stupid) elected the persons who outlawed pot. If you don't like a law, there are ways to change it. We are not living in Nazi Germany and outlawing pot is not comparable to prohibiting Jews from marrying Gentiles.
Hyperbole.
Anyway... who was the candidate that these people should have voted for who was pro-weed?
Posted on 7/9/08 at 7:25 pm to wrlakers
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I have to laugh at the notion that it's okay to break a law if you don't agree with it.
Laugh if you want. It's that very notion that bought you the freedom you have right now. It used to be illegal to criticize the King. That is, until somebody BROKE the stupid fricking law and revolted.
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I also have to laugh at the notion that the government did this to an unwilling populace.
Nobody ever suggested that. Hell the "populace" in this country is "willing" to accept all kinds of stupid arse laws. This doesn't change the fact that they are stupid.
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Voters (both smart and stupid) elected the persons who outlawed pot.
While I don't deny the existence of the odd smart voter, these two words should only very rarely be used together in the same sentence. Americans are dumber than rocks.
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If you don't like a law, there are ways to change it.
Yes. And one of those ways is to criticize it and call it stupid. Another is to break it and challenge it. In the meantime, until it's changed, it's very common for people to ignore stupid fricking laws, sometimes with bad consequences to themselves, unfortunately.
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We are not living in Nazi Germany and outlawing pot is not comparable to prohibiting Jews from marrying Gentiles
How the government is appointed has nothing to do with whether or not it's stupid. The fact that stupid voters are stupid enough to elect stupid representatives to pass stupid laws doesn't change the fact that they're all stupid.
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I don't want to see any LSU alum getting bad press.
It's only bad to morons who attach some moral importance to following stupid laws that make no sense and hurt society much more than they help it.
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The impressions of the world are easily shaped by stories like this.
We can only hope.
Posted on 7/9/08 at 7:25 pm to Raz
i remember 4 years ago the guy that finished 3rd was trying to leglize weed. cant remember his name. but that was one of his big campaign ideas he was really pushing
Posted on 7/9/08 at 7:26 pm to Raz
Maybe one of the pro-pot guys who've posted on this thread should run for office if they feel so strongly.
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